UBuntu on older machines ?
Charley Ramm
charleyramm at gmail.com
Fri Dec 10 22:32:37 UTC 2004
I actually have used and enjoyed both, and my impression is that xfce4
is 'fatter' than fluxbox. xfce4 is leaning more towards the 'desktop
environment' idea, where fluxbox is just a window manager. I like both.
s.roman wrote:
>so, is there a big advantage in using fluxbox over xfce4?
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>On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:18:06 +0100, Charley Ramm <charleyramm at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>I run a pII, 266mhz with debian on it. Currently it is my main machine
>>until my laptop gets fixed. It runs fluxbox and dillo perfectly smoothly
>>and it also runs an apache server with perl / python cgi so i can play
>>with that stuff. It is a great little box. *Aside from that, its fitted
>>in to an old cardboard box. Old school, huh? But i love it.
>> My onboard sound is also broken, but with fluxbox and dillo i have a
>>perfectly smooth and useable operating system. Firefox is sluggish, but
>>works ok for those pages that need it. (I hate CSS with a passion now).
>> Im sure i heard that ubuntu can install xfce as an alternative to
>>gnome. Have you tried this yet? Or any of the other 'light' window
>>managers.
>>I got a shock last night when i tried The Gimp on this little machine.
>>It ran FINE! It was absolutely brilliant. I am never buying a new
>>computer, ever again. (crosses his fingers)
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>>Charley
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>>Vincent Trouilliez wrote:
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>>>>>Now that I have just learned that Ubuntu can run on my old Pentium
>>>>>200MMX board with 256MB of RAM, I can't wait to try.
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>>>>>Vince
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>>>>Don't hesitate, just try it - my organisation has 3 pre-233MHz machines
>>>>with linux installed. Just try it then post again.
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>>>Okay here is the result with Intel 200MMX board.
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>>>First, my board was more clever that I thought, the BIOS did manage to
>>>boot from the CD ! :-)
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>>>I put 256MB of RAM on the board, and re-used the original hard drive,
>>>ATA33 3.2GB disk, as I wasn't sure if my bigger disks would work, I
>>>seem to remember there was a size limitation problem with disks around
>>>that time, but I couldn't remember exactly what was the problem. So I
>>>played it safe and just re-used the original drive.
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>>>The install took well wellll over an hour, probably because of the disk
>>>that's kinda slow, as Jeff pointed out.
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>>>Despite copying all the packages, Ubuntu used only 1.5GB of space,
>>>therefore leaving me with another 1.5GB to play with.
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>>>Apart from the on-board sound which didn't work, and Gnome forcing me to
>>>use a 800*600 screen resolution instead of the 1024*768 I used to use on
>>>this machine, everything worked perfectly. Laser printer, external ZIP
>>>drive, Ethernet controller and cable modem/internet, everything was
>>>working fine out of the box.
>>>
>>>However it was a bit too slow to be useable, calling a Nautilus window
>>>(say the 'disk' location or 'home' or whatever) took 5 seconds, so it's
>>>not really suitable for daily use.
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>>>I am sure if the CPU was only a bit faster, it would work well. But
>>>sadly, 200MHz is already the fastest Pentium one you can get, ISTR.
>>>233MHz maybe. I am sure a dual 200MMX board would be plenty powerfull
>>>enough
>>>
>>>However I have recently been toying with the idea of having a second
>>>Linux box to build a local Ethernet network, both to serve some specific
>>>needs I have, but also generally to play with things, experiment with
>>>Network related things, and learn more about Linux.
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>>>Typically that's what I would like to achieve/experiment with this
>>>future machine:
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>>>1) Put several IDE disks and binds them using S/W RAID
>>>2) Set up an NFS network with the main/other machine
>>>3) Use it to regularly back-up my 10GB or so of precious data from the
>>>main PC
>>>4) Attach laser printer locally and let the main PC access it from the
>>>network
>>>5) fiddle with remote administration, remote control of the PC using
>>>Gnome's 2.8 new tools.
>>>6) local mail
>>>7) Intranet / local web server
>>>8) Other things that will eventually spring to mind as I go ! ;-)
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>>>But I need first to buy a decent tower case, screen and keyboard and
>>>mouse hardrive power supply etc, and money is very tight right now.
>>>But eventually this will come to life sometime next year, at which point
>>>I will no doubt bombard this list for help. Be prepared folks... ;o)
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>>>Regards,
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>>>Vince
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