<div dir="ltr"><div>Yeah do not quit, I am one of the few members from way back in the 90s or early 2000 when this was a usenet group (back then it was a full on unix group). I fully get the need and feelings you have but you should not quit rather stay/lurk. My input in the last two years is a fraction of my daily input way way way back......it is how it goes. </div>Heard your pitch a few times from different people as the group has changed, grown and morph'd. It is the state of things.... Hope you stay, no-one blames you for anything and if they are blaming you they need to get a life beyond this because this club, thread, group or whatever will out live them too. Good to see someone else took the lead and thank you for your time ;) </div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Simon Quigley <<a href="mailto:tsimonq2@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">tsimonq2@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Ian, > Thoroughly disagree. You have brought a lot of energy to the team, and > we have appreciated it. The problem is not you, nor your goals, nor > your implementation. > > I think there's no fault. You have merely found the group's natural > shared energy level. > > We are a distributed group over a large territory, and have not found a > way to make collaboration and shared interests work yet. We hang out in > different spaces, we are interested in different projects, we are > different ages. The only thing we really have in common is a general > desire to make Ubuntu better...and perhaps that's just not enough yet. I hope and want this team to succeed. I do. I've just lost the energy I used to have, so I think it's time for a change in leadership. I guess I sort of blame myself because I haven't given a lot of time to this group lately and there hasn't been much activity. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not. :) > Don't leave the team. Stay and lurk. Gently recruit to your favorite > project (Lubuntu) from here. Share information from your local > Team/LUG/Makerspace/whatever. I never planned on leaving. I'm just giving another person a chance. In fact, I'm more active now in the Ubuntu community than I have ever been before. ;) In fact, I don't want to become inactive in this group. If we do anything, I'm in if I can make it. So don't think I'm leaving, I'm just stepping down as leader. :) > Take a long view: If you recruit one new member to another team each > year, that's a success. If you keep one member from drifting away each > year, that's a success. That's growth. That makes sense. I agree. :) > I think you have been successful. > > Sure, if you wish to rotate leadership, I'll toss my hat into the ring > for a cycle. I know how draining leadership can be. Added as list admin and owner in LP. Thanks, I appreciate you stepping up. :) -- Simon Quigley <a href="mailto:tsimonq2@ubuntu.com">tsimonq2@ubuntu.com</a> tsimonq2 on freenode and OFTC <div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">-- For more information about this team, navigate to <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam Ubuntu-us-wi" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam Ubuntu-us-wi</a> mailing list <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-us-wi@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-us-wi@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-wi" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-wi</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> -- <div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">simon says</div> </div>