[Ubuntu-us-wisconsin] Why the inactivity?

Simon Quigley tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com
Tue May 3 21:17:08 UTC 2016


Good morning,

On 05/01/16 21:16, Ian Weisser wrote:

> It's beneficial. Zip Codes and Town names are unquestionably public,
> not Personally Identifiable Information (PII). We really only need an
> approximate location, and the member is not required to be truthful --
> if somebody is really worried about disclosing that their username is
> in Middleton, simply claim to be in Sun Prairie instead.

I see, nevermind then. :)

> Don't read too much into it.
> 
> At the minimum, it merely means helping the occasional stray volunteer
> who wanders into us looking for, say, Debian, to find their way to the
> right place. It has happened.
> 
> On occasion, we get a member who does contribute to an upstream
> project, and wants to recruit new participants from among our members.
> They envision a sub-LoCo team devoted to that project. It has happened.
> It's not a big deal. It means zero additional burden for the LoCo. The
> goal simply means that such collaboration is explicitly okay.
> 
> The reason it's a goal is so that the concept will get exposed to
> members. "Hey, I never thought of that. I should try that."

Alright. :)

> Yes, it's one of Ubuntu's original purposes for LoCos. That's why it's
> on the list. It's also one right way to give back to the OS that we
> use...and many Ubuntu teams (like the Documentation Team) are rather
> desperate for more help.
> 
> The reason it's a goal is that most members have no idea how to edit
> documentation or Triage bugs. One proper role of a LoCo is to train
> those skills and occasionally run a Jam.

I see, I'd love to run one. :)

> Correction: Ubuntu Beginners and Ubuntu Youth were created after LoCos.
> They became moribund and died for reasons unrelated to LoCos.

I thought they were before LoCos, huh, how I know. :)

> Most Ubuntu Members that I have met would have contributed anyway.
> Indeed, they were contributing anyway, and need to be prompted to
> finally apply for Membership.

Well can't we encourage that? :)

> What kind of collaboration with other LoCos?

Meetups for LTS releases? *shrug*

> What's going on with them? I haven't seen nor heard anything.

Me neither.

> I do end-user support in the Forums and the LUG. Once or twice a year,
> a user just can't communicate well online, or simply cannot follow
> instructions, or is so frustrated over something simple that the
> easiest answer is to tell them 'Look, just take your machine to a LUG
> meeting and let them fix it in 20 seconds.' 
> 
> The reason it's a goal is that it's expected of us. We are the local
> face of Ubuntu. It doesn't mean running our own free help desk. It
> means referring users who contact us to an appropriate online forum,
> LUG meeting, or LoCo event that can help them. 

I see, makes sense.

> Reminder: Milwaukee LUG *is* having an event to celebrate 16.04.
> However, no cake or drinks - we're doing an UpgradeFest. Bring in your
> old 12.04 (or 10.04, or 14.04) machines and backup/upgrade them with
> the clever oldsters in the room to help if something goes wrong. May
> 14th and June 11th meetings.
> 
> This is the first Ubuntu-specific event the Milwaukee LUG has hosted,
> and I'm proud that over the past two years we have shed a lot of the
> old distro-wars FUD and anti-Ubuntu rancor from the LUG's culture.
> 
> An event doesn't need to be a Release Party.
> An event doesn't need to be standalone.
> An event simply needs to attract members and users. It can be appended
> onto another event that they were already attending. Indeed, that's how
> UbuCons started.
> 
> The reason it's a goal is that meetups are explicitly part of the LoCo
> Council guidelines.

\o/

Alright. :)

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