[ubuntu-us-ut] ubuntu-us-ut Digest, Vol 51, Issue 11

Christian Horne blendmaster1024 at gmail.com
Wed Sep 29 13:53:56 BST 2010


I can't speak for your offer to help, though I'm sure it's going to be
welcome, I was just going to say that you did get the email out, it
hit the list. FYI, having digest mode on is a bad idea if you want to
reply to things.
blendmaster1024




On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Shawn Barnes <slooksterpsv at gmail.com> wrote:
> Not sure if I'm doing this right to get my email on the list, but I
> would love to help out with the wiki or with anything - programming I
> kind of do, mainly it's been wxPython I don't know GTK+ or QT or that -
> but I always tell people about it. Post screenshots on my facebook, and
> other things.
>
> Let me know how I can help. I want to see Utah top the charts for Ubuntu
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Shawn B.
>
> On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 05:19 +0100, ubuntu-us-ut-request at lists.ubuntu.com
> wrote:
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>>    1. Re:  Airing of grievances (was Meerkat Ditching 'aptitude')
>>       (Aaron Toponce)
>>    2.  UTOSC 2010: Early Bird Registration ends TODAY!! (Clint Savage)
>>    3.  Still a team? (Aaron Toponce)
>>    4. Re:  Still a team? (Aaron Toponce)
>>    5. Re:  Still a team? (James VanTassel)
>>    6. Re:  Still a team? (Rob Oakes)
>>    7. Re:  Still a team? (Ryan Jones)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:52:52 -0600
>> From: Aaron Toponce <aaron.toponce at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-ut] Airing of grievances (was Meerkat Ditching
>>       'aptitude')
>> To: ubuntu-us-ut at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Message-ID: <20100921005252.GF11741 at poseidon.cocyt.us>
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>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 05:44:46AM -0600, Christian Horne wrote:
>> > why is anyone still using evolution? it's slow and gigantic ...
>>
>> I'm not an Evolution user, but I bet I could answer that question:
>>
>>   * It integrates tightly with the GNOME desktop.
>>   * It has the best Outlook PIM-like functionality of any GNU/Linux
>>     desktop MUA.
>>   * It's standards-compliant.
>>   * It's highly configurable.
>>   * It's not slow and gigantic- it's actually 1/8 the size of
>>     Thunderbird.
>>
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>> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:19:16 -0600
>> From: Clint Savage <herlo1 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [ubuntu-us-ut] UTOSC 2010: Early Bird Registration ends
>>       TODAY!!
>> To: Salt Lake Linux Users Group Discussions <sllug-members at sllug.org>,
>>       plug at plug.org, Ubuntu Utah <ubuntu-us-ut at lists.ubuntu.com>
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>> PRICES GO UP TOMORROW!!
>>
>> The Utah Open Source Conference 2010, held October 7-9, 2010 Early
>> Bird registration will end tonight, September 25 @ midnight and prices
>> will increase by 30%. ?Visit http://attend.utosc.com to register TODAY
>>
>> Discount codes are available in many places, including twitter and
>> identi.ca (follow the user @utos). ?We also provide promo codes to
>> Local User Groups, our sponsors, exhibitors and UTOS core team
>> members.
>>
>> With over over 50 conference presentations and several events ? including:
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>> Ignite Salt Lake, LaunchUP and Geek Dinner ?? UTOSC 2010 has tons of
>> exciting, educational and fun presentations, events and much, much
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>>
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>> Get registered today! Visit http://attend.utosc.com. ?See you in October!
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:14:15 -0600
>> From: Aaron Toponce <aaron.toponce at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [ubuntu-us-ut] Still a team?
>> To: Ubuntu Utah Local Community Team <ubuntu-us-ut at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID: <20100929031415.GD25877 at poseidon.cocyt.us>
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>> I have been hanging out in the ubuntu-california [1] irc channel today to
>> help resolve some concerns that have been creeping up since 2 years ago.
>> While hanging out, I've been very impressed with what they're doing as a
>> team. I don't know if they're approved or not, but I do know that we're
>> approved, and I don't know why.
>>
>> I'm not trying to rock the boat, or stir anyone's feelings. Don't come
>> after me with pitchforks and torches. I'm just jealous with what the
>> California team has been doing in their IRC channel today.
>>
>> Basically, they have an IRC bot that so far has been reporting wiki
>> changes to the channel. They have this thing called "Ubuntu Hour", where
>> members do something for an hour, once a week, completely ad-hoc, to
>> spread the word about Ubuntu [2][3].
>>
>>     [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/
>>     [2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours
>>     [3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour
>>
>> They participate in standard Ubuntu stuff like the global bug jam [4],
>> SCaLE [5] and other events. It seems they're really rocking it. They
>> have a solid foundation to build from for creating activities that get
>> everyone involved.
>>
>>     [4] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/MaverickGlobalJam
>>     [5] http://socallinuxexpo.org/
>>
>> I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm jealous.
>>
>> I remember when Christer and I started the US Teams Mentoring Project
>> [6]. The idea started because Utah, Ohio and Colorado were the only states
>> that were kicking serious butt. We started colaborating with each other
>> on what made us successful, and we decided to start a project based
>> around these ideas. It's still running, and according to pleia2, of
>> whome I left in charge of the project, things are going well.
>>
>>     [6] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USTeams
>>
>> Anyway, Ubuntu Utah still feels like my baby. I don't want to see it go
>> by the wayside, and turn into a standard monthly LUG. There is so much
>> more we can do. But I think we need to set goals. We need a roadmap.
>>
>> I'm sure Christer has burned the candle at both ends. After all, he's
>> working 3 jobs, and raising a family all the while, running an Ubuntu
>> local community! Christer shouldn't be pulling 100% of the weight. We
>> should all be doing our part. If each of us gave just 5% of our time.
>> Hell, an hour or two a week, we'd see this team turn around. I'm sure of
>> it.
>>
>> I guess I what I'm saying is: I want to see an active IRC channel. I
>> want to see an active mailing list. I want to see members, new and old,
>> come to meetings. I want to see activities involving local businesses,
>> non-profits, etc. I want to see the team spreading Ubuntu.
>>
>> I believe in Ubuntu. I believe in our team.
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:16:54 -0600
>> From: Aaron Toponce <aaron.toponce at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-ut] Still a team?
>> To: Ubuntu Utah Local Community Team <ubuntu-us-ut at lists.ubuntu.com>
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>> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 09:14:15PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote:
>> > I guess I what I'm saying is: I want to see an active IRC channel. I
>> > want to see an active mailing list. I want to see members, new and old,
>> > come to meetings. I want to see activities involving local businesses,
>> > non-profits, etc. I want to see the team spreading Ubuntu.
>>
>> We should probably start with our wiki. It's a bit out-dated. :)
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtahTeam
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:19:06 -0600
>> From: James VanTassel <hsabort at sicksadworld.us>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-ut] Still a team?
>> To: Ubuntu Utah Local Community Team <ubuntu-us-ut at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
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>> excellent thoughts aaron.
>>
>> instead of letting all the weight fall on one persons shoulders we should
>> all take up some minimal responsibility. it seems there is a pattern of
>> someone taking the reigns, burning out, being inactive until someone else
>> steps up.
>>
>> we could help each other with this so that there is always someone around
>> that can get the job done when need be.
>>
>> the wiki is a great place to start. we could also hand out ubuntu cds,
>> spread the word about our irc channel, participate in bug jams, contribute
>> how-to articles, and even things that make us part of our community like the
>> age-old idea/practice of donating old boxes running ubuntu.
>>
>> just my two cents.
>>
>> again thanks aaron for the refreshing post.
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>> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:00:35 -0600
>> From: Rob Oakes <lyx-devel at oak-tree.us>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-ut] Still a team?
>> To: Ubuntu Utah Local Community Team <ubuntu-us-ut at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID: <9388D064-1667-4002-A906-FAA6E17FE8AB at oak-tree.us>
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>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> +1 to everything you say.  I had a couple of additional thoughts.
>>
>> As a new member to the team, I would love to get involved in activities or larger projects.  Particularly since a local group means that you can meet other Ubuntu users in real life instead of solely over IRC and email (which is wonderful, don't get me wrong).
>>
>> But with that said, it hasn't really been clear about how contribute to Ubuntu-Utah.  There isn't much structure, nor is there a way to suggest ideas.  And I don't have any experience with the LoCo structure.  If it's anything like traditional open source projects, sometimes the best option is to lurk for a while, learn the culture and then become involved.  But other than join the mailing list and volunteer to speak at the Utah Open Source Conference, I wasn't aware that there are other opportunities.  Does the group meet regularly?  If so, is there a calendar of activities?
>>
>> Because there aren't any clear initiatives, I've never been sure what types of projects the team might be interested in tackling.  Based on the information on the Wiki, it seems like a lot of the group's previous activities have been aimed at Ubuntu promotion (writing articles, handing out CDs, etc).
>>
>> Have you done other things?  Might there be an interest in tackling a coding or design related project related to Ubuntu?  Right now, I've been interested in tackling problems associated with open source publishing technologies.  Does the group have any similar large scale interests?
>>
>> (As a specific project example, I've long been frustrated by the lack of high quality templates for Scribus, OpenOffice and AbiWord.  Are there any design minded individuals who would be interested in packaging ten to twenty templates/design assets that could be donated upstream?)
>>
>> (In the aforementioned push for templates, I got myself started but haven't had time to return to it, http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2010/08/21/modern-templates)
>>
>> In addition to the wiki, maybe a good next step would also be to organize regular meetings and talk about the scope of activities that the group would like to sponsor?
>>
>> That would allow for people to meet and get to know one another, which might make it easier to find potential collaborators.  It would also be nice to learn who are the active members and to find out what their interests are.  It might even be good to take an informal poll and see if there are specific topics that people are interested in.  That could help for meetings to be more specific to the needs of the group and more useful.  I know that I would be much more likely to attend or contribute if the project/meeting was tailored more closely to my interests.
>>
>> Like the previous comment, just my two cents, though.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rob Oakes
>>
>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:19:13 -0600
>> From: Ryan Jones <ryjonesacct at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-ut] Still a team?
>> To: Ubuntu Utah Local Community Team <ubuntu-us-ut at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Message-ID:
>>       <AANLkTimLnX3RtGC6kdA_jx+ZmH5cQ_1vtVO+buKza8Gs at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hey Team,
>>
>> I just wanted to clarify up front I am not a programmer, I am an accountant,
>> but I love Ubuntu! I enjoy getting updates from the Ubuntu-Utah team, but as
>> a non-programmer I'm not really sure what I can do if anything for the team.
>> So I haven't really contributed much, not because I don't want to, simply
>> because I don't know what to do. I spread the word of how much I love
>> Ubuntu, and I have had a few conversions, but thats about it. Anyway I just
>> wanted to say I like the direction this is taking and I hope it continues. I
>> would love to become more involved and do my part as well. If anything I can
>> be an example that you don't have to be a programmer to install and run
>> Ubuntu. Thanks for your contributions, I look forward to doing my part for
>> the Ubuntu-Utah team.
>>
>> Ryan Jones
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Rob Oakes <lyx-devel at oak-tree.us> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Aaron,
>> >
>> > +1 to everything you say.  I had a couple of additional thoughts.
>> >
>> > As a new member to the team, I would love to get involved in activities or
>> > larger projects.  Particularly since a local group means that you can meet
>> > other Ubuntu users in real life instead of solely over IRC and email (which
>> > is wonderful, don't get me wrong).
>> >
>> > But with that said, it hasn't really been clear about how contribute to
>> > Ubuntu-Utah.  There isn't much structure, nor is there a way to suggest
>> > ideas.  And I don't have any experience with the LoCo structure.  If it's
>> > anything like traditional open source projects, sometimes the best option is
>> > to lurk for a while, learn the culture and then become involved.  But other
>> > than join the mailing list and volunteer to speak at the Utah Open Source
>> > Conference, I wasn't aware that there are other opportunities.  Does the
>> > group meet regularly?  If so, is there a calendar of activities?
>> >
>> > Because there aren't any clear initiatives, I've never been sure what types
>> > of projects the team might be interested in tackling.  Based on the
>> > information on the Wiki, it seems like a lot of the group's previous
>> > activities have been aimed at Ubuntu promotion (writing articles, handing
>> > out CDs, etc).
>> >
>> > Have you done other things?  Might there be an interest in tackling a
>> > coding or design related project related to Ubuntu?  Right now, I've been
>> > interested in tackling problems associated with open source publishing
>> > technologies.  Does the group have any similar large scale interests?
>> >
>> > (As a specific project example, I've long been frustrated by the lack of
>> > high quality templates for Scribus, OpenOffice and AbiWord.  Are there any
>> > design minded individuals who would be interested in packaging ten to twenty
>> > templates/design assets that could be donated upstream?)
>> >
>> > (In the aforementioned push for templates, I got myself started but haven't
>> > had time to return to it,
>> > http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2010/08/21/modern-templates)
>> >
>> > In addition to the wiki, maybe a good next step would also be to organize
>> > regular meetings and talk about the scope of activities that the group would
>> > like to sponsor?
>> >
>> > That would allow for people to meet and get to know one another, which
>> > might make it easier to find potential collaborators.  It would also be nice
>> > to learn who are the active members and to find out what their interests
>> > are.  It might even be good to take an informal poll and see if there are
>> > specific topics that people are interested in.  That could help for meetings
>> > to be more specific to the needs of the group and more useful.  I know that
>> > I would be much more likely to attend or contribute if the project/meeting
>> > was tailored more closely to my interests.
>> >
>> > Like the previous comment, just my two cents, though.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Rob Oakes
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