[ubuntu-us-ut] [oalug] Re: Ubuntu's default groups

[Aaron Toponce]

Stuart Jansen wrote:
> Are you forgetting about pam_console and friends? Setting permissions on
> devices is an important part of letting the kernel do its job.
>   

How is what Ubuntu different from Debian or Fedora? I'm referring to
permission modes on hardware.

>> Consider for a moment Fedora moving X11 from tty7 to tty1. It was a
>> change that brought no apparent advantage, and broke tons, and tons of
>> documentation. The developers were just tired of it on tty7, and thought
>> it was time for a change.
>>     
>
> The stated reason for the change was not boredom, it was "to avoid
> flicker". I think that's baloney, but it still kills your example.
>   

Then why not move /dev/console to tty7?

> Maybe I want to be able to use my cdrom, scanner and soundcard but I
> don't want little Bobby using anything other than the soundcard.
> Ubuntu's method allows me to easily enforce that. (Although I think
> configuring pam_console is a better solution.)
>   

I guess I'll have to take a closer look at pam_console. This makes a
little sense, I guess.

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