JVLB UEFI Problem
Allison Randal
allison.randal at canonical.com
Sat Nov 5 12:21:26 UTC 2011
We can rule out secure boot as the cause of the problem. It's not available on any hardware yet. (I've posted more detail at allisonrandal.com.)
James Bradley <jim at oregoncanoesport.com> wrote:
>An additional thought occurs, if the secure boot feature is available in
>the firmware, as you suggest, is it activated through the setting of a
>single bit? If so, corruption of the firmware due to a bad component or
>a glitch during the flashing of the BIOS might account for the problem,
>enabling secure boot accidentally, (and wouldn't that be a comforting
>thought?)
>
>JVLB
>
>
>On 11/02/2011 04:25 PM, Allison Randal wrote:
>> This is perfect, thanks! A bunch of us are at UDS this week, so I'm
>> collecting details. One useful piece, next time you get access to the
>> hardware, since the CD boots, you can run the Ubuntu Friendly tests
>> straight from the Live CD session:
>>
>> http://friendly.ubuntu.com/participate/
>>
>> That can track down more detail on where the failure might be.
>>
>> Looks like I might get access to similar hardware next week, as well.
>>
>> Allison
>>
>> On 10/31/2011 11:53 AM, James Bradley wrote:
>>> Thank you very much for your attention in this matter, Allison.
>>>
>>> This page at HP's site has the most complete specifications I can find:
>>> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12454-12454-3329740-64546-64546-5146457-5157056.html
>>>
>>>
>>> The machine is not in my possession, so I can't immediately access it,
>>> (I'm helping a friend set it up). If there is more information you need,
>>> like BIOS rev number or such, let me know and I'll try to get it for you.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure how many details have been forwarded to you, so let me
>>> briefly recap. Kubuntu 11.10-64 installs on its partition without
>>> apparent problem. The installer identifies the separate boot partition
>>> used by Win 7 as the target for GRUB and the installation appears to
>>> progress normally. Upon attempting to reboot, GRUB's menu never appears
>>> and the machine boots straight into Windows. Attempts to install GRUB
>>> using the Boot Repair disk appear to run normally, giving no errors, but
>>> upon reboot the machine again immediately boots Windows.
>>>
>>> It would certainly seem that it is GRUB which is failing to install. I
>>> can try to install using the command line, if you think that will be
>>> helpful. Please let me know if there are any special parameters which
>>> should be passed to grub-install in such an attempt. Perhaps I should
>>> add, there is an entry in the BIOS labeled "UEFI", but selecting it
>>> produces no response.
>>>
>>> It should be noted that HP consumer tech support was not knowledgeable
>>> on the issue and was blocked from querying business tech support by
>>> internal policy. Perhaps you can wield sufficient clout to obtain a
>>> better result.
>>>
>>> Again, thank you for your time and attention in this matter.
>>>
>>> JVLB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/31/2011 07:43 AM, Allison Randal wrote:
>>>> This is almost certainly a problem with some hardware component in the
>>>> system. UEFI has been around a long time, and is compatible with Linux
>>>> (including Ubuntu). The Secure Boot feature was just introduced in the
>>>> UEFI v2.3.1 specification released in April 2011, and the hardware
>>>> vendors are still working on implementation. So, UEFI Secure Boot isn't
>>>> shipping in current hardware.
>>>>
>>>> JVLB, if you let me know a little more about the specs of your system, I
>>>> can look up the components in our hardware database
>>>> (http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/) and see if we can pinpoint a likely cause of
>>>> failure.
>>>>
>>>> Allison
>>>>
>>>> On 10/30/2011 07:48 PM, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
>>>>> Hey JVLB,
>>>>>
>>>>> So the UEFI issue you were having which I shared on my blog is getting
>>>>> around the entire FOSS community (So far Mandriva Forums, Linux Mint
>>>>> Forums, Ubuntu Forums and every social network site) anyways a Ubuntu
>>>>> member suggested trying a 64bit image for the install and also you might
>>>>> try a alternate ISO if you haven't already.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is some concern that it might be a Ubuntu bug instead of
>>>>> UEFI/Secure Boot.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> bkerensa
>>>>>
>>>>>
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