[ubuntu-us-nm] Team status

Jay N. Forrest jay4rest at gmail.com
Sun Jan 10 22:50:18 GMT 2010


Dear Ubuntu  Team,

It seems that I am not welcome in the Ubuntu group anymore, at least by
Kurt. I am tried of fighting with a few hot heads in the group. You want
me out Kurt, fine I am out. I will be removing my name from the group
and from the list. Clearly I am not welcome in "your" group.

Jay Forrest 

 

On Sat, 2010-01-09 at 19:46 -0700, Kurt von Finck wrote:

> On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:17:09 -0700
> "Jay N. Forrest" <jay4rest at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Now notice what I said, "the Ubuntu group is pretty much a once a week
> > chat - not much more." If you don't go to the Endorphin Power Company
> > and your looking for something more than online chat, what does the
> > Ubuntu team offer? About five meetings a year. So this
> > "characterization of the Ubuntu New Mexico group is" NOT "patently
> > false." It would be false if I said that the group has no meetings.
> > Remember the context of the question was the NMLUG.
> 
> > If you don't go to the Endorphin Power Company
> > and your looking for something more than online chat, what does the
> > Ubuntu team offer?
> 
> Seeing that you have not participated in the NM Ubuntu LoCo team in any
> substantive way in many, many months (other than try to make yourself
> the lead coordinator of it), I don't know how you formulate an informed
> opinion of what the team does and does not do.
> 
> You ask the question, "What does the Ubuntu team offer?" Well, seeing
> that your involvement is close to nil, how, exactly, can you answer
> this intelligently?
> 
> Let me be plain. You wanted to run the NM LoCo yourself, and when you
> were denied that opportunity, you stopped any contributions, packed up
> your toys, and went home.
> 
> Now you show up on the mailing list only when someone asks, "What is
> the team up to," and do so only to say, "Nothing. Join my team instead."
> 
> You were disparaging of our efforts. Look at what you yourself admit
> saying:
> 
> > "The Ubuntu group is pretty much a once a week chat - not much more."
> > If you don't go to the Endorphin Power Company and your looking for
> > something more than online chat, what does the Ubuntu team offer?
> 
> So which is it? Once a week chats only, or have we done a lot of good
> work for a local non-profit? You can't have it both ways.
> 
> I didn't see you at the release party. Guess what? That did not happen
> on IRC. It was held at a local restaurant.
> 
> I have CDs and t-shirts to hand out. We'll be doing that soon.
> 
> You're not part of the solution Jay, so narrowing things down that
> leads to a single conclusion.
> 
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