<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed; font-size: 12px;" lang="x-western">Well finally reloaded my desktop which was running Linux Mint 14 to Ubuntu 13.10. I ran into several obstacles. All of the information below is with 64bit distributions. First I tried installing Ubuntu 13.10 and the Cinnamon that was in the standard repository and when I went to login using Cinnamon all I got was a mouse pointer. I then uninstalled Cinnamon added the Cinnamon ppa repository and installed Cinnamon 2.0 (I knew this would trash Unity but was willing to live with that). This ran for a couple days but then I could not log in with anything but gnome fall back. My final attempt which seems to be working now is I download Ubuntu Gnome 13.10, wiped out Ubuntu and installed Ubuntu Gnome 13.10. I again attempted to use the standard repository Cinnamon and got the same results as Ubuntu. I then uninstalled Cinnamon added the Cinnamon ppa repository and installed Cinnamon 2.0. In Ubuntu 13.10 I also ran into an issue with pan. It does not seem to allow SSL connections like Mint 14 (based on 12.10) did. I googled it seems this issue appeared in Ubuntu 13.04 and still is not fixed. My options as I saw them was to compile from source or use stunnel4. I chose the stunnel4 option. I am hoping Ubuntu finally fixes this. On my laptop I was running Ubuntu 13.04 which ran Cinnamon fine. That machine also had Unity, KDE, XFCE and LXDE desktops installed. I did a distribution upgrade which worked. However the Cinnamon just gives me a black screen and mouse pointer like my desktop did with the standard Ubuntu repository install. I did not install ppa on this one (decided I did not want to hose Unity or my laptop). I am currently using KDE desktop since Cinnamon will not work. Brian </div> </body> </html>