May Meeting - New Format

James Ewing Cottrell 3rd JECottrell3 at Comcast.NET
Wed May 19 20:44:17 BST 2010


Sorry I didn't reply to this earlier. Images are fine. Several 
distributions provide Images that you can simply DD to USB Flash Drive.

However, I have seen people attempt and actually use syslinux rather 
than grub on flash drives. YUK!

I also hate Live CDs. They were once cool...they would run 
anywhere...and you could run them on anything without changing the state 
of that computer. But now flash drives exists...and they are Real Disks. 
They are Bigger, Faster, and you can Write to them.

Treating a USB Flash Drive as Just Another Disk gives you all the 
Advantages of a Live CD with none of the Disadvantages.

JIM

On 4/30/2010 10:59 AM, Chuck Frain wrote:
> The idea behind the image is more for the presenters. During the
> UbuntuMD presentations we want to provide a consistent interface for
> those attending.
>
> What I will be doing is creating an image using the Ubuntu Live USB
> creator tool which is installed by default. Then using that USB drive we
> use that during the presentations. It may be that we simply load up the
> OOo presentation on using that drive. It may be that there is a demo
> associated with the presentation and that is also done with the LiveUSB
> disk.
>
> By providing the image to the presenters, they have same base to start
> from. Presenters can grab it and build their presentation in the same
> environment they will be presenting on thus (hopefully) ensuring it
> works for them on presentation day and for the attendees. Changes to the
> environment for their presentation are more easily tracked so if you
> need to install packages foo and bar to get your software working it is
> easily noted.
>
> As we are providing the image to the presenters there's not additional
> overhead to provide it to the attendees should they desire it.
>
> I hope this clarifies the issue for you Jim. We're not reinventing
> anything, just setting it up in a manner that will make our
> presentations consistent for the audience.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2010, James Ewing Cottrell 3rd wrote:
>
>    
>> How is this any different than building a distro on a disk? A thumb
>> drive is just a disk. You create a label with fdisk, partition it, and
>> install normally.
>>
>> OK, don't tell me you are going to use one of those icky syslinux
>> recipes. Why would you do that when you just just use grub?
>>
>> Why use two methods when one will do? One other hint...with a thumb
>> drive, don't bother making a swap partition.
>>
>> JIM
>>
>> P.S. Yes, there are some tricky issues concerning the mapping between
>> (hd0) and (hd1) to sda and sdb and which of those is the thumb or hard
>> drive, and it even varies depending on whether you do a manual install
>> or a kickstart. And probably the distro as well. And then there is
>> grub2, which does who knows what.
>>
>> Chuck Frain wrote:
>>      
>>> Greetings All,
>>>
>>> I'll be building a distro on a thumbdrive and providing the image in
>>> some manner for those that want the presentation environment.
>>>        
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