GPLv3 4. Conveying Verbatim Copies: "You may charge any price or no price for each copy that you convey, and you may offer support or warranty protection for a fee." Remember that the GPL is about providing freedoms not about taking them away. <a href="http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.html">http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.html</a> <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Paul Tagliamonte <<a href="mailto:paultag@ubuntu.com">paultag@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Danny Piccirillo <div class="im"><<a href="mailto:danny.piccirillo@ubuntu.com">danny.piccirillo@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: </div><div class="im">> I understood that you could sell free software, but i thought you > could not restrict access to the code (you can't see unelss you pay), </div>At the cost of the medium it's transported on IIRC <div><div></div><div class="h5"> > but i suppose you still can't stop someone else from sharing so it > makes sense. Either way, i don't think they need to use a model like > that to make money, but it will be interesting to see what they do > > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:26, Paul Tagliamonte <<a href="mailto:paultag@ubuntu.com">paultag@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: >> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Danny Piccirillo >> <<a href="mailto:danny.piccirillo@ubuntu.com">danny.piccirillo@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: >>> Identica: >>> <a href="http://identi.ca/notice/31264446" target="_blank">http://identi.ca/notice/31264446</a> >>> Reddit: >>> <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/c0kn3/ryzom_mmorpg_partners_with_the_fsf_and_goes_gnu/" target="_blank">http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/c0kn3/ryzom_mmorpg_partners_with_the_fsf_and_goes_gnu/</a> >>> >>>>If Ryzom is still a game you have to buy in order to get access to the code >>> >>> Of course, that would be illegal... >> >> That's not actually illegal. You can sell code ( that's the free as in >> beer part ), but to remain open source you have to provide the source >> code at a modest ( at most ) price ( free as in freedom part ) >> >>> >>> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:13, Moustafa Chamli <<a href="mailto:moustafa.chamli@gmail.com">moustafa.chamli@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >>>> While this may be great news, there is still one issue to be adressed: Is it >>>> still sold, or downloaded for free? The reason most large companies don't >>>> go Free is because of the fear of losing profits. If Ryzom is still a game >>>> you have to buy in order to get access to the code, this would be excellent >>>> news as it could encourage more companies to do the same. >>>> >>>> Moustafa Chamli >>>> Game designer, 3D modeler >>>> <a href="mailto:moustafa.chamli@gmail.com">moustafa.chamli@gmail.com</a> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Danny Piccirillo >>>> <<a href="mailto:danny.piccirillo@ubuntu.com">danny.piccirillo@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: Peter Brown <<a href="mailto:info@fsf.org">info@fsf.org</a>> >>>>> Date: Thu, May 6, 2010 at 08:01 >>>>> Subject: [FSF] Breakthrough for Free Software Gaming >>>>> To: <a href="mailto:info-fsf@fsf.org">info-fsf@fsf.org</a>, <a href="mailto:info-press@fsf.org">info-press@fsf.org</a> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Breakthrough for Free Software Gaming--Ryzom Announces Full Release of >>>>> Source Code and Artwork, and a Partnership with the Free Software >>>>> Foundation to Host a Repository of the Game's Artistic Assets. >>>>> >>>>> Press release: <a href="http://dev.ryzom.com/news/13" target="_blank">http://dev.ryzom.com/news/13</a> and at >>>>> <a href="http://www.fsf.org/news/free-ryzom-1" target="_blank">http://www.fsf.org/news/free-ryzom-1</a> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> By Brett Smith - FSF Licensing Compliance Engineer >>>>> >>>>> Ryzom is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG), >>>>> where players work together to explore a fantasy world and set out on >>>>> various quests. Today, the Ryzom team has released the game as free >>>>> software: both the client and server programs have been released under >>>>> the GNU Affero General Public License version 3, while its models, >>>>> textures, and other art are covered by CC-BY-SA 3.0. >>>>> >>>>> This release is probably the single-biggest contribution to free >>>>> software games yet. If you missed it, check out the press release. We're >>>>> thankful to the Ryzom team for making this release, and excited about >>>>> the possibilities it presents to all free software games. The code is >>>>> tested and proven, having run the Ryzom game since 2004, and the >>>>> art—more than 13 gigabytes of data—can be adapted and used in other >>>>> games. This release can provide a lot of new resources and energy for >>>>> free software game development. >>>>> >>>>> Since we're expecting people to have a lot of interest in this release, >>>>> we wanted to provide some detailed information up-front about exactly >>>>> what has and has not been released, and suggestions for ways developers >>>>> can contribute to the project effectively. >>>>> >>>>> All of the code necessary to run both the client and server software has >>>>> been released under AGPLv3. If you want to play on the official Ryzom >>>>> server today, you can do that using only free software. Modified clients >>>>> will not be allowed to connect to the official server, but a testing >>>>> server is available to try them out. >>>>> >>>>> If you want to run your own server for the game, you have the software >>>>> to do that, but you won't really have any world data—information about >>>>> geography, special places, characters, quests, items, and so on—to run >>>>> it with. Winch Gate Properties, the company that currently holds the >>>>> copyright for all game materials and runs the official server, has >>>>> decided not to release that data, to avoid causing disruption for their >>>>> current player community. People who want to run their own server will >>>>> need to develop their own world to do so—only a small test world comes >>>>> with the code. >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, that development can't be done with free software, >>>>> because most of the world creation process depends on proprietary 3-D >>>>> modeling software. Work is already underway to eliminate those >>>>> dependencies and use free software alternatives like Blender. This is >>>>> the next big task that needs to be done to make Ryzom even more useful >>>>> to the free software community, so if you'd like to help, please see the >>>>> project page for more information. In the meantime, the server code may >>>>> be adapted for other games. >>>>> >>>>> Art files from the game, including both textures and 3-D models, have >>>>> been released under CC-BY-SA 3.0. The FSF is helping distribute these >>>>> files by hosting a mirror for the Ryzom media server. You can use these >>>>> files in other games, software, artistic works—anywhere, really—under >>>>> the terms of that license. Music and sound effects are not being >>>>> released today because Winch Gate does not have the legal rights to do >>>>> so, but they are trying to find an arrangement that will see these files >>>>> released under a free license as well. >>>>> >>>>> Today's release offers free software developers a lot of opportunities, >>>>> both to contribute to Ryzom and to improve other software. If you see a >>>>> project that you'd like to see benefit, please get involved! For more >>>>> information about this release, including downloads and more projects >>>>> underway, please visit the Ryzom team's page. >>>>> >>>>> <a href="http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/ryzom-free-software" target="_blank">http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/ryzom-free-software</a> >>>>> >>>>> info-fsf mailing list >>>>> <a href="mailto:info-fsf@fsf.org">info-fsf@fsf.org</a> >>>>> Unsubscribe: <a href="http://lists.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/info-fsf" target="_blank">http://lists.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/info-fsf</a> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> .danny >>>>> >>>>> ☮♥Ⓐ - <a href="http://www.google.com/profiles/danny.piccirillo" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/profiles/danny.piccirillo</a> >>>>> Every (in)decision matters. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mailing list: <a href="https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-gaming" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gaming</a> >>>>> Post to : <a href="mailto:ubuntu-gaming@lists.launchpad.net">ubuntu-gaming@lists.launchpad.net</a> >>>>> Unsubscribe : <a href="https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-gaming" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gaming</a> >>>>> More help : <a href="https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp" target="_blank">https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp</a> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> .danny >>> >>> ☮♥Ⓐ - <a href="http://www.google.com/profiles/danny.piccirillo" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/profiles/danny.piccirillo</a> >>> Every (in)decision matters. >>> >>> -- >>> Ubuntu-news-team mailing list >>> <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-news-team@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-news-team@lists.ubuntu.com</a> >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-news-team" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-news-team</a> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> #define sizeof(x) rand() >> :wq >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-us-ma mailing list >> <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-us-ma@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-us-ma@lists.ubuntu.com</a> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ma" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ma</a> >> > > > > -- > .danny > > ☮♥Ⓐ - <a href="http://www.google.com/profiles/danny.piccirillo" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/profiles/danny.piccirillo</a> > Every (in)decision matters. > > -- > Ubuntu-news-team mailing list > <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-news-team@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-news-team@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-news-team" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-news-team</a> > -- #define sizeof(x) rand() :wq -- Ubuntu-us-ma mailing list <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-us-ma@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-us-ma@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ma" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ma</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> <div style="visibility: hidden; display: inline;" id="avg_ls_inline_popup"></div><style type="text/css">#avg_ls_inline_popup { position:absolute; z-index:9999; padding: 0px 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-top: 0px; width: 240px; overflow: hidden; word-wrap: break-word; color: black; font-size: 10px; text-align: left; line-height: 13px;}</style>