Are you suggesting Ubuntu holds back the SETC team mission and SETC holds back the mission to spread Ubuntu to the masses? Or that you want to promote all FLOSS not just one brand? Whenever I was at an installfest, I had by collection of old install disks and recent magazine disks -- if someone had asked for Open Office for Windows or Fedora, I'd have helped install it. It might not be on the menu, but a good kitchen can serve whatever is ordered. I can support Ubuntu best by not telling someone to run it when it would be the wrong choice for them. We already have in Greater Boston a no-limits Linux User Group, BLU.org, Boston Linux Unix, that does any-distro installfests, and which is open to even commercial Unix -- which explains why it is the only LUG older than Linux. BLU will have a booth at LinuxCon this summer here in Boston. It could really use some younger members, so Danny and anyone else wishing to be active outside of Ubuntu be welcome to join us there. Last week, we heard about using a commercial product, Dragon Naturally Speaking, under WINE. Upcoming: <ol><li>Wed, May 19, 2010 :: <a href="http://blu.org/cgi-bin/calendar/2010-may"> Open Source and Astaro's Business</a></li><li>Sat, May 22, 2010 :: <a href="http://blu.org/cgi-bin/calendar/2010-ifest37"> Linux InstallFest XXXVII</a></li><li>Wed, Jun 16, 2010 :: <a href="http://blu.org/cgi-bin/calendar/2010-jun"> Secure Data Deletion Under linux</a></li><li>Wed, Sep 15, 2010 :: <a href="http://blu.org/cgi-bin/calendar/2010-sep"> PGP/GnuPG Keysigning Party XI, plus a talk by V. Alex Brennan. </a></li></ol> Boston is also galactic headquarters for EFF & Gnu. They support all FLOSS that is free enough by their standards. Good folks, different mission. Having a connection however disfunctional to Canonical and the rest of Ubu-core is what makes *this* Local-Community team unique among LUGs. We can escalate questions through channels. If someone wants help with *buntu, they should want tqgo through this team. This team should not walk away from that. However, we might not want to be quite so Gnome/U-buntu centric. Especially while the buttons are bollixed and Mono is being pushed, we should consider pushing LUbuntu (Lxde) as the alternative for those that shouldn't be on Kubuntu (KDE), especially since Xubuntu (XFCE) is no longer usable on obsolete hardware. -- Bill <a href="mailto:n1vux@arrl.net">n1vux@arrl.net</a> <a href="mailto:bill.n1vux@gmail.com">bill.n1vux@gmail.com</a>