[ubuntu-us-ma] SETC ( et all )

Paul Tagliamonte paultag at ubuntu.com
Wed Nov 17 21:39:06 GMT 2010



On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Martin Owens <doctormo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for opening the floor Paul,
> The abridged story of the SETC is that the MA team provided classes
> there for almost 3 years. Desktop classes and some systems admin
> classes. Each tuesday bar a handful of days off we were there in force
> (usually about 3 to 6 of us) to offer help, teach and help with anything
> we could.
> There was an understanding that there would be a replacement of the
> front machines with Apples. This happened. What was not expected was the
> shift of the middle room's 6 machines to Apple Mac also. This lack of
> transparency has caused me to question the worth of spending time on the
> SETC since the center seems to have no control over it's own workings
> enough to not cause issue with groups running programs there.
> Technical problems include: The lack of net boot, the loss of duel boots
> and the lack of a solid auth network.
> Other problems include: Al Willis of MIT, staunch supporter of Apple and
> VMWare products, standing against the use of FOSS. Mel King, Apple fan.
> Mel's sons, Microsoft supporters and Belay the sysadmin, Microsoft
> supporter.
> There is a lack of oversight and structure to who is in charge or
> responsible, no concrete systems administration skills to run the
> center, no apatite for training and little technical skill in the wider
> community of helpers to help.
> In the past we have been very adaptable, trying our best to make sure
> all platforms and software could work well, we got used and so we pulled
> out running programs. Until the SETC have proven they have changed their
> ways, I don't want us as a group to waste time on it.
> Best Regards, Martin Owens
> On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 13:33 -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
>> Heyya MA,
>> There's been a bit of talk about the SETC and getting stuff going
>> again there. I'd love it if we could use this thread to talk a bit
>> about what happened, if it's save-able, and if the team should devote
>> resources to it ( including how much ).
>> I think this would make a good "guide" if a team were to devote time
>> to the SETC again.
>> There are a lot of sore-spots ( personally ) with this, so let's try
>> and keep this about the team and the SETC. Stories ( both positive and
>> negative ) are OK, just make sure they're relevant to the thread.
>> Thanks, guys!
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