[ubuntu-us-ma] ubuntu? one

Caroline Meeks caroline at solutiongrove.com
Wed Feb 17 21:37:19 GMT 2010

Interesting. I'm not up on the debate.

How does Ubuntu One compare/relate to http://www.tonidoplug.com/ ?

Looks like Tonido runs on ubuntu and all open source code.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Daniel Hollocher <danielhollocher at gmail.com
> wrote:

> So I've been thinking about the debate over Ubuntu One.  I saw this
> take place a little on ubuntu-devel-discuss, and the main complaint
> there was the source code for the server was not released.  At first,
> the issue didn't seem like a big deal to me.  Who cares if the source
> code is not release?  All Ubuntu One is is a place that you can put
> your files.  There is no vender lock-in, so that limits the problems
> that can arise.
> But, there is an issue with the notion of what Ubuntu is overall at
> stake.  Is Ubuntu a commercial venture, or a non-profit venture
> governed by ideals?  I found a posting with Mark Shuttleworth's
> opinion on the issue [1], and he seems to think that Ubuntu is his
> property.  Ubuntu is something that he puts together and offers to the
> community, but he reserves the sole right to make money with Ubuntu.
> OTOH, I see many people refer to Ubuntu as if it is a non-profit
> venture worthy of actives like fundraising, and offering free support.
>  Also, the terms for the community to use the Ubuntu trademark is that
> it be for non-profit (non-commercial maybe?) activities, which
> furthers the notion that Ubuntu is an ideal.
> I had assumed that this project by Shuttleworth was going to be a
> combination of both commercial goals and free software ideals, and I
> had also assume that those two were divided by the two names chosen
> for the project, Canonical and Ubuntu.  Canonical would be the
> commercial side, and Ubuntu would be the idealized side. Now my
> understanding is that Ubuntu is a trademark owned by
> Canonical/Shuttleworth, and is licensed to the community in a way that
> doesn't compete with Canonical.
> I think that is fine in principle.  Google is this way.  But does it
> make sense to treat Ubuntu as a non-profit type organization, one
> where you would donate money and time to support it?  Google is
> structured this way, yet do we have Google LoCOs?  Does anyone
> fundraise on Google's behalf?  I don't think these make allot of
> sense.  Why not have a separate org that is non-profit, where we
> invest our energy and money into?  It now seems like people are
> unpayed employees rather than volunteers.
> What do you guys think?  Martin especially, since you invest so much
> time, how do you feel about Ubuntu?  Do you feel like you are working
> for an ideal? or a commercial venture? or something else?
> Dan
> [1]
> http://www.stefanoforenza.com/shuttleworths-take-on-ubuntu-one-trademark-issue/
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