[ubuntu-us-ma] 1) Boston's Google video 2) Moving beyond TCP

Danny Piccirillo danny.piccirillo at ubuntu.com
Tue Apr 13 23:13:20 BST 2010

Here's a direct link to that Facebook Page:

RINA certainly seems interesting-- is there a site with more info?

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 16:31, Stephen Ronan <sronan at panix.com> wrote:
> Couple interesting items that crossed my desk this p.m.
> 1) The video Boston submitted as part of its pitch to get Google
> to come deploy a fiber network in Boston.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1Dy4ZJcUDE
> Nice!
> There is a Bring Google to Boston Facebook page that can readily
> be found viat the Facebook search box.
> 2) Also this, which Fred Goldstein (who lives in Newton) said
> could be freely passed on... It's a little (okay, a lot) beyond
> my geek pay grade but I trust Fred's judgment
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:05:33 -0400
> From: Fred R. Goldstein <fgoldstein at IONARY.COM>
> Subject: Moving beyond TCP/IP
> In this past week's discussions, and in some earlier threads, I
> have referred to an alternative protocol stack that is currently
> under development as a long-term replacement for IP.  One of the
> reasons I suggest we need common carriage below the IP layer is
> to make room for it, rather than allow the vertically-integrated
> ISPs to lock users in to IP.  This has obvious policy
> implications.
> RINA (Recursive InterNetwork Architecture) addresses the major
> areas where today's Internet is weakest. These include
> scalability, security, multihoming, multicasting, and mobiliity.
> It also offers improved streaming capabilities and a technical
> solution for ensuring the benefits of "neutrality" without the
> many problems of other proposals.  By using the same basic layer
> mechanism recursively, rather than have a fixed stack with
> purpose-built protocols at each layer, it is fundamentally simple
> yet very powerful. RINA can even coexist with IPv4 networks more
> easily than IPv6, making its adoption more practical. An "All-IP
> Network" would thus be a step in the wrong direction.
> RINA was developed by John Day based upon the ideas in his book
> Patterns in Network Architecture: A Return to Fundamentals.
> (Hence the underlying concept is also called PNA.)  It is not a
> product yet, but it's in the works.  We've finally completed a
> rather long (18 pages) introductory article, explaining both the
> motivations (why TCP/IP has run out of steam) and the solution.
> Those who are interested can now read it here:
> http://www.ionary.com/PSOC-MovingBeyondTCP.pdf
> BTW, the Pouzin Society (the organization behind RINA) is meeting
> at FutureNet
> in Boston next month.
>  --
>  Fred Goldstein    k1io   fgoldstein "at" ionary.com
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