[ubuntu-us-ma] Star trek
Linane, Jack
jack.linane at WILMINGTON.K12.MA.US
Thu May 7 02:01:24 BST 2009
With a new rollout of Ubuntu just released I really think the talk should be on this product not Star Trek. I keep getting numerous volumes sent to my email and hope to read tech findings on 9.04. All I am reading about is the meeting place or which bus to take to see the movie. Enough already!! Please take me off the mailing list and I will find some true techies on Ubuntu. This is a waste of my time!!
Jack
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I am advising people to buy their tickets on line soon very soon for the 7pm show on May 13! Don't get left out alone in the parking lot...or worse in a huge furniture store
Felicia
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1. Re: Star Treck (IMAX)!!! (James Gray)
2. Re: Star Treck (IMAX)!!! (Danny Piccirillo)
3. Re: "Video Killed the Radio Star..." (Martin Owens)
4. Re: Star Treck (IMAX)!!! (Michael Terry)
5. Re: "Video Killed the Radio Star..." (Doc Kinne)
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Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:40:58 -0400
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Another +1 for Wednesday
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Michael Terry <mike at mterry.name> wrote:
> 2009/5/1 Martin Owens <doctormo at gmail.com>:
>> I vote Wednesday, that gives a week for all the Captin Kirks to get
>> their fill before we go.
>
> I assume it's not to late to jump on this bandwagon? ?Myself and a +1
> are interested in going. ?We're fine with Wednesday.
>
> -mt
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Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:14:11 -0400
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May 13?
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 13:40, James Gray <jamespgray at gmail.com> wrote:
> Another +1 for Wednesday
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Michael Terry <mike at mterry.name> wrote:
> > 2009/5/1 Martin Owens <doctormo at gmail.com>:
> >> I vote Wednesday, that gives a week for all the Captin Kirks to get
> >> their fill before we go.
> >
> > I assume it's not to late to jump on this bandwagon? Myself and a +1
> > are interested in going. We're fine with Wednesday.
> >
> > -mt
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Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:26:53 -0400
From: Martin Owens <doctormo at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-ma] "Video Killed the Radio Star..."
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Hey Doc,
the xorg conf is meant to be empty, it's mostly generated on the fly
these days.
It sounds like the xrandr can't get your monitor specs, so I hope you
have them to hand. You can either repair the link between your video
card and monitor (in order to enable i2c/ddc) or manually put the
details into xorg conf and wire everything up yourself.
I'd go for getting the drivers for your video card right, what are they?
Regards, Martin Owens
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 10:33 -0400, Doc Kinne wrote:
> Hi Guys:
>
>
> Boy, that subject line really dates me, doesn't it? :-)
>
>
> I have to say that 9.04 is batting 0 for me at this point. I tried to
> upgrade my Xubuntu installation on my Dell Inspiron 7000 laptop and it
> would not boot up. Mike rolled his eyes at an "upgrade," and there is
> part of me that understands that. I re-installed 8.10 on it and its
> working as well as it ever did with Xubuntu. My next step there will
> be to install 9.04 and see if that makes a difference.
>
>
> But that's a back-burner project to be honest. This particular email
> is about Ubuntu 9.04 on a desktop.
>
>
> The desktop is an HP Vectra 550MHz PIII, 0.5GB RAM, an onboard VGA
> video port. It was, until last night, blissfully running Fedora 10. I
> decided to try to but Ubuntu 9.04 on it.
>
>
> The install seemed to go as I expected it to with no problems.
> However, when the machine rebooted the video no longer worked.
>
>
> The machine would boot up and give the "Ubuntu" logo with the "moving
> underline" indicating boot up progress. 90% the way through that line
> the monitor would ker-chunk as it tried to move to a different
> resolution (at least I think thats what its doing. It sounds like
> there are some heavy relays moving, and moving those relays is usual
> behavior for this particular Envision monitor). What gdm was doing was
> trying to find a resolution and scan rate that made sense to it. It
> would never find it and it would finally give up and throw up a dialog
> box saying that Ubuntu was in "Low Graphics Mode" and offer ways to
> debug the situation.
>
>
> Going into console mode I checked /etc/X11/xorg.conf and found it
> either empty or having nothing of substance in it. Looking at the logs
> is how I found out that gdm was unsuccessfully trying to find a proper
> resolution and scan rate.
>
>
> ? I tried running "xrandr" but it consistently said it could not open
> the display.
>
>
> ? I tried reinstalling gdm. It would reinstall with no problem. The
> only question regarding the display it would ask me would be if I
> wanted to use the frame rate buffer or not. I tried both "yes" and
> "no" with no effect.
>
>
> ? I tried dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, but that just seemed
> to give me a xorg.conf with basically empty entries in it.
>
>
> ? At one point, when I had killed the gdm process I just invoked
> "startx" from the console. And it came up! I thought I was getting
> somewhere. I went to the Display control panel and it said the monitor
> resolution was 800x600 with a 60Hz signal. OK, it wasn't the 1024x768
> that I was used to, but it worked. I applied the changes, and it
> seemed to take it. However upon rebooting the display no longer
> worked.
>
>
> ? I tried hand editing xorg.conf putting in a display resolution of
> 800x600 and a driver of vesa (since in the logs it looked like it was
> trying to use that driver), but that didn't work either.
>
>
> Any thoughts from you guys? I'm stumped at this point. I've not had a
> problem like this since the late 90s. It really confuses me that gdm
> cannot find a good resolution, but startx tries twice and does it. But
> I can't get those parameters to stick via the Display Control Panel.
>
>
> The only thing *I* can think of right now is to try to install 8.04 or
> 8.10 and see if I have better luck there.
> ---
>
> Richard "Doc" Kinne ? Rikardo ?Dok?jo? KINNE, BA, MSc., AMAAS
>
> <kinnerc @ gmail.com>
>
> "I'm the Doctor, and you're in the biggest library in the universe.
> Look me up!"
>
> - The Doctor
>
>
> "Forests of the Dead," Doctor Who
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:34:32 -0400
From: Michael Terry <mike at mterry.name>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-ma] Star Treck (IMAX)!!!
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2009/5/6 Danny Piccirillo <danny.piccirillo at gmail.com>:
> May 13?
Yeah.
-mt
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Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:53:59 -0400
From: Doc Kinne <kinnerc at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-ma] "Video Killed the Radio Star..."
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Martin:
On 06 May , 2009, at 14:26, Martin Owens wrote:
> the xorg conf is meant to be empty, it's mostly generated on the fly
> these days.
Yea, I saw that, but I expected SOMETHING there. I'm not sure where
else that data would be kept.
> It sounds like the xrandr can't get your monitor specs,
Never used the program before, but I agree with you, yes.
> so I hope you have them to hand.
Ummmmm. :-( It's an on-board video circuit going to an Envision
multisync monitor. :-\
> You can either repair the link between your video
> card and monitor (in order to enable i2c/ddc) or manually put the
> details into xorg conf and wire everything up yourself.
>
> I'd go for getting the drivers for your video card right, what are
> they?
At this point I'm assuming I can use the vesa driver.
Unless anyone else comes up with some particular ideas I'm first going
to see if I can install 8.04 on it. If that doesn't work, I'll
reinstall Fedora 10 on it and see what kind of data I can get from
that installation before trying Ubuntu again.
---
Richard "Doc" Kinne ? Rikardo ?Dok?jo? KINNE, BA, MSc., AMAAS
<kinnerc @ gmail.com>
"I'm the Doctor, and you're in the biggest library in the universe.
Look me up!"
- The Doctor
"Forests of the Dead," Doctor Who
> On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 10:33 -0400, Doc Kinne wrote:
>> Hi Guys:
>>
>>
>> Boy, that subject line really dates me, doesn't it? :-)
>>
>>
>> I have to say that 9.04 is batting 0 for me at this point. I tried to
>> upgrade my Xubuntu installation on my Dell Inspiron 7000 laptop and
>> it
>> would not boot up. Mike rolled his eyes at an "upgrade," and there is
>> part of me that understands that. I re-installed 8.10 on it and its
>> working as well as it ever did with Xubuntu. My next step there will
>> be to install 9.04 and see if that makes a difference.
>>
>>
>> But that's a back-burner project to be honest. This particular email
>> is about Ubuntu 9.04 on a desktop.
>>
>>
>> The desktop is an HP Vectra 550MHz PIII, 0.5GB RAM, an onboard VGA
>> video port. It was, until last night, blissfully running Fedora 10. I
>> decided to try to but Ubuntu 9.04 on it.
>>
>>
>> The install seemed to go as I expected it to with no problems.
>> However, when the machine rebooted the video no longer worked.
>>
>>
>> The machine would boot up and give the "Ubuntu" logo with the "moving
>> underline" indicating boot up progress. 90% the way through that line
>> the monitor would ker-chunk as it tried to move to a different
>> resolution (at least I think thats what its doing. It sounds like
>> there are some heavy relays moving, and moving those relays is usual
>> behavior for this particular Envision monitor). What gdm was doing
>> was
>> trying to find a resolution and scan rate that made sense to it. It
>> would never find it and it would finally give up and throw up a
>> dialog
>> box saying that Ubuntu was in "Low Graphics Mode" and offer ways to
>> debug the situation.
>>
>>
>> Going into console mode I checked /etc/X11/xorg.conf and found it
>> either empty or having nothing of substance in it. Looking at the
>> logs
>> is how I found out that gdm was unsuccessfully trying to find a
>> proper
>> resolution and scan rate.
>>
>>
>> ? I tried running "xrandr" but it consistently said it could not
>> open
>> the display.
>>
>>
>> ? I tried reinstalling gdm. It would reinstall with no problem. The
>> only question regarding the display it would ask me would be if I
>> wanted to use the frame rate buffer or not. I tried both "yes" and
>> "no" with no effect.
>>
>>
>> ? I tried dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, but that just
>> seemed
>> to give me a xorg.conf with basically empty entries in it.
>>
>>
>> ? At one point, when I had killed the gdm process I just invoked
>> "startx" from the console. And it came up! I thought I was getting
>> somewhere. I went to the Display control panel and it said the
>> monitor
>> resolution was 800x600 with a 60Hz signal. OK, it wasn't the 1024x768
>> that I was used to, but it worked. I applied the changes, and it
>> seemed to take it. However upon rebooting the display no longer
>> worked.
>>
>>
>> ? I tried hand editing xorg.conf putting in a display resolution of
>> 800x600 and a driver of vesa (since in the logs it looked like it was
>> trying to use that driver), but that didn't work either.
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts from you guys? I'm stumped at this point. I've not had a
>> problem like this since the late 90s. It really confuses me that gdm
>> cannot find a good resolution, but startx tries twice and does it.
>> But
>> I can't get those parameters to stick via the Display Control Panel.
>>
>>
>> The only thing *I* can think of right now is to try to install 8.04
>> or
>> 8.10 and see if I have better luck there.
>>
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