[ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu-us-in Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4
Scott D Howard
scottdhoward at gmail.com
Wed Jun 13 09:43:39 UTC 2012
I like 12.04 as much/if not more than any previous version of Ubuntu. I
just don't see why so many people hate Unity. Many of the reasons don't
seem sufficient to me. But I am happy for those that don't like Unity, as
they have many other options to choose from in the Linux world.
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> 1. Re: Ubuntu-us-in Digest, Vol 49, Issue 3 (Charlie Luna)
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> From: Charlie Luna <war.tribe.mc at gmail.com>
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> I, unfortunately, didn't answer the question at hand. Should you continue
> development of 10.10 as a new distribution? If you want to, go for it. i
> see no problem with another choice. I wish I had your talent to develop an
> OS. Is it doomed to failure? Can't say. I wouldn't think so.
>
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> > 1. Re: Ubuntu-us-in Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2
> > (Sobieralski, Damian Michael)
> > 2. Re: Ubuntu-us-in Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2 (justin sullivan)
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> > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:53:00 +0000
> > From: "Sobieralski, Damian Michael" <dsobiera at indiana.edu>
> > To: "ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com" <ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu-us-in Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2
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> > Not to dismiss those that are having problems w/ the new UI but I've been
> > using Unity for a while and it seems fine for my general desktop
> computing.
> > As I was forced to be on OSX for a while I got used to the dock in OSX.
> > So Unity wasn't really that big of a deal for me when I moved back to
> > Ubuntu.
> >
> > Compiz running w/ it I find my hardware on my laptop has issues with at
> > times. But I run in 2d Unity mode and all seems to work just fine. At
> home
> > I run Unity in 3d mode w/ no problems. For a UI that's only been around
> for
> > a very short time I think Unity is progressing along fine. But I do admit
> > it isn't anywhere near to being polished as the ones that have been
> around
> > for some time.
> >
> > Again, this is not meant to poo poo on those that don't like the new UI
> > that GNOME 3 or Unity gives them. It's just for me, I'm trying to adapt
> to
> > the new UI as they come out. But I can certainly understand the crowd
> that
> > would rather have keyboard and hardware requirement simplicity over the
> new
> > stuff.
> >
> > -Damian
> >
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> > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:59:58 -0400
> > From: Charlie Luna <war.tribe.mc at gmail.com>
> > To: ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu-us-in Digest, Vol 49, Issue 1
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> > I wish I could make an intelligent sounding comment about what you guys
> > are talking about but I constantly find myself stumped with all the types
> > of interfaces, if that's what they're called. Unity, gnome, xfce, etc.
> I'm
> > so illiterate with these terms that I have no idea of what looks like
> what.
> > I do know I have the newest release for ubuntu: 12.04 lts. There were
> some
> > initial things I didn't like but I've become accustomed to those things
> and
> > don't mind them so much now. I'm not good at knowing how to modify what's
> > already in place because one, I don't know how and secondly, if I tried,
> I
> > fear screwing everything up but that isn't a bad thing since I could just
> > reinstall everything. If I knew more about coding and modifying, id be
> able
> > to comment better but so far I like 12.04 lts on my laptop. Except that I
> > keep getting the password prompt for the keyring for some software. I
> need
> > to reinstall my os to see if that goes away.
> > On Jun 11, 2012 10:55 PM, <ubuntu-us-in-request at lists.ubuntu.com> wrote:
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> > > 1. Ubuntu 10.10 (Ryan Hoots)
> > > 2. Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Phil Buckler)
> > > 3. Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (John Hayden)
> > > 4. Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (John Hayden)
> > > 5. Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Jeremy L. Gaddis)
> > > 6. Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Sim?n Ruiz)
> > >
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> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:46:16 -0400
> > > From: Ryan Hoots <overlord at ryanhoots.com>
> > > To: "Ubuntu's Indiana Local Community Team"
> > > <ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > > Subject: [ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu 10.10
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> > > I was recently thinking about Ubuntu's 2010 releases, specifically
> > > 10.10, which has just reached its end of life. I liked 10.10 a lot, in
> > > fact it's still in use on about %25 of my computers because I like it
> so
> > much.
> > > So, now that it's retired, I face a problem. Newer Ubuntu releases
> > > don't work with my hardware very well, even my brand new laptop I just
> > > got recently. But 10.10 is fine on it.
> > > My idea is to unofficially continue Ubuntu 10.10's development as a
> > > new Linux distribution, sort of like what MATE did with GNOME 2. In
> > > fact, MATE might even be installed on this new distro by default.
> > > So, I'd like to know, what's your opinion of this idea? Is it
> > > worthwhile, or is it doomed to failure?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ryan
> > >
> > > --
> > > www.ryanhoots.com
> > >
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> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:24:01 -0500
> > > From: Phil Buckler <buck2825 at gmail.com>
> > > To: "Ubuntu's Indiana Local Community Team"
> > > <ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu 10.10
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> > > I agree and have been internally fighting with this decision the past
> > > few weeks. Initially I told myself that Unity would get better just
> > > give it time. Well here we are 12.04 LTS is out and Unity sucks,
> > > Gnome 3 is worse and I find myself frustrated asking if I should just
> > > install windows 7. I don't know what the answer is but I don't think
> > > yet another linux distro is the answer. When I look at linux distros I
> > look
> > > for longevity, financial sound business model, and usability. I am
> now
> > 6
> > > year using Ubuntu so I have amassed several tools and software
> > > packages that I like and know. So I tend to lean toward a Debian OS of
> > some flavor.
> > > I don't want to get much more then one distro removed from the Debian
> > > for the support. That is the reason I have downloaded an am now
> > > testing Linux Mint Debian. I'm still not sure what i'm going to end
> > > up with but it should be thoroughly frustrating.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Phil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Ryan Hoots <overlord at ryanhoots.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was recently thinking about Ubuntu's 2010 releases, specifically
> > > > 10.10, which has just reached its end of life. I liked 10.10 a lot,
> > > > in fact it's still in use on about %25 of my computers because I like
> > it so much.
> > > > So, now that it's retired, I face a problem. Newer Ubuntu releases
> > > > don't work with my hardware very well, even my brand new laptop I
> > > > just got recently. But 10.10 is fine on it.
> > > > My idea is to unofficially continue Ubuntu 10.10's development as a
> > > > new Linux distribution, sort of like what MATE did with GNOME 2. In
> > > > fact,
> > > MATE
> > > > might even be installed on this new distro by default.
> > > > So, I'd like to know, what's your opinion of this idea? Is it
> > > > worthwhile, or is it doomed to failure?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ryan
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > www.ryanhoots.com
> > > >
> > > > Sent to you on my Linux? laptop- where else would I risk logging in
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> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:33:16 -0400
> > > From: John Hayden <johnhayden83 at gmail.com>
> > > To: "Ubuntu's Indiana Local Community Team"
> > > <ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu 10.10
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> > > I would tend to agree with you. I would do whatever works best for
> > > you. If the new were you going to does not work with your computer,
> > > Why upgrade and give yourself problems. Besides, it should still work
> > > fine for quite a while Without any updates.
> > > Of course this is only just my opinion On the matter. But you could
> > > possibly even use a different distro That runs better on Lower and
> > > computers.
> > > On Jun 11, 2012 11:46 AM, "Ryan Hoots" <overlord at ryanhoots.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was recently thinking about Ubuntu's 2010 releases, specifically
> > > > 10.10, which has just reached its end of life. I liked 10.10 a lot,
> > > > in fact it's still in use on about %25 of my computers because I like
> > it so much.
> > > > So, now that it's retired, I face a problem. Newer Ubuntu releases
> > > > don't work with my hardware very well, even my brand new laptop I
> > > > just got recently. But 10.10 is fine on it.
> > > > My idea is to unofficially continue Ubuntu 10.10's development as a
> > > > new Linux distribution, sort of like what MATE did with GNOME 2. In
> > > > fact,
> > > MATE
> > > > might even be installed on this new distro by default.
> > > > So, I'd like to know, what's your opinion of this idea? Is it
> > > > worthwhile, or is it doomed to failure?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ryan
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > www.ryanhoots.com
> > > >
> > > > Sent to you on my Linux? laptop- where else would I risk logging in
> > > > to Gmail?
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> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:37:40 -0400
> > > From: John Hayden <johnhayden83 at gmail.com>
> > > To: "Ubuntu's Indiana Local Community Team"
> > > <ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu 10.10
> > > Message-ID:
> > >
> > > <CAATzOJhDaBk_VrUg4yqg-SLR-QytH+UZo8Pv+hLCJV2yButU-w at mail.gmail.com
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> > > Please forgive all the grammatical errors in my last response. I am
> > > sending this via voice reply.
> > > On Jun 11, 2012 12:33 PM, "John Hayden" <johnhayden83 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would tend to agree with you. I would do whatever works best for
> you.
> > > > If the new were you going to does not work with your computer, Why
> > > upgrade
> > > > and give yourself problems. Besides, it should still work fine for
> > > > quite
> > > a
> > > > while Without any updates.
> > > > Of course this is only just my opinion On the matter. But you could
> > > > possibly even use a different distro That runs better on Lower and
> > > > computers.
> > > > On Jun 11, 2012 11:46 AM, "Ryan Hoots" <overlord at ryanhoots.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I was recently thinking about Ubuntu's 2010 releases, specifically
> > > 10.10,
> > > >> which has just reached its end of life. I liked 10.10 a lot, in
> > > >> fact
> > > it's
> > > >> still in use on about %25 of my computers because I like it so much.
> > > >> So, now that it's retired, I face a problem. Newer Ubuntu releases
> > > >> don't work with my hardware very well, even my brand new laptop I
> > > >> just got recently. But 10.10 is fine on it.
> > > >> My idea is to unofficially continue Ubuntu 10.10's development as a
> > > >> new Linux distribution, sort of like what MATE did with GNOME 2. In
> > > >> fact,
> > > MATE
> > > >> might even be installed on this new distro by default.
> > > >> So, I'd like to know, what's your opinion of this idea? Is it
> > > worthwhile,
> > > >> or is it doomed to failure?
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Ryan
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> www.ryanhoots.com
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent to you on my Linux? laptop- where else would I risk logging in
> > > >> to Gmail?
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:03:03 -0400
> > > From: "Jeremy L. Gaddis" <jlgaddis at gnu.org>
> > > To: Ubuntu's Indiana Local Community Team
> > > <ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu 10.10
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> > >
> > > If you like Ubuntu, stick with Ubuntu. Personally, I'm a huge fan of
> > > Debian.
> > >
> > > I don't care for Unity or Gnome 3 or KDE, for that matter, but I do
> > > make use of Xfce, awesome, and xmonad at various times. I have one
> > > single "desktop" PC left and it runs Debian w/ Xfce quite nicely.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeremy L. Gaddis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Ryan Hoots wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was recently thinking about Ubuntu's 2010 releases, specifically
> > > 10.10, which has just reached its end of life. I liked 10.10 a lot, in
> > > fact it's still in use on about %25 of my computers because I like it
> so
> > much.
> > > > So, now that it's retired, I face a problem. Newer Ubuntu releases
> > > > don't
> > > work with my hardware very well, even my brand new laptop I just got
> > > recently. But 10.10 is fine on it.
> > > > My idea is to unofficially continue Ubuntu 10.10's development as a
> > > > new
> > > Linux distribution, sort of like what MATE did with GNOME 2. In fact,
> > > MATE might even be installed on this new distro by default.
> > > > So, I'd like to know, what's your opinion of this idea? Is it
> > > worthwhile, or is it doomed to failure?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ryan
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > www.ryanhoots.com
> > > >
> > > > Sent to you on my Linux? laptop- where else would I risk logging in
> > > > to
> > > Gmail?
> > > >
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> > >
> > > Message: 6
> > > Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:55:06 -0400
> > > From: Sim?n Ruiz <simon.a.ruiz at gmail.com>
> > > To: "Ubuntu's Indiana Local Community Team"
> > > <ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu 10.10
> > > Message-ID:
> > >
> > > <CAB2FfT-56vN15CLpE7n2c+W6EtK5UbuYicJPyMUeeQEFki+wzQ at mail.gmail.com
> > > >
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> > >
> > > I've been playing around with Linux Mint, lately; I haven't been
> > > minding Unity, but unfortunately Precise stopped working on some of
> > > the older hardware (Dell Latitude D610) we use in class for the O.S.
> > > install lab we run our ninth graders through. I've tried several of
> > > the Ubuntu variants, but they all hang right at the end of the Ubuntu
> > > thermometer bar.
> > >
> > > I'm hoping Linux Mint lets me continue to use Ubuntu for that lab,
> > > otherwise I'll have to cast farther afield for an appropriate modern
> > > Linux distro to use.
> > >
> > > Sim?n
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 19:25:02 +0200
> > From: justin sullivan <j.p.sullivan at hotmail.com>
> > To: "ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com" <ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> > Fedora is better.
> >
> >
> > On 12.06.2012, at 15:00, ubuntu-us-in-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote:
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> > > Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:59:58 -0400
> > > From: Charlie Luna <war.tribe.mc at gmail.com>
> > > To: ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu-us-in Digest, Vol 49, Issue 1
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> > > I wish I could make an intelligent sounding comment about what you guys
> > are
> > > talking about but I constantly find myself stumped with all the types
> of
> > > interfaces, if that's what they're called. Unity, gnome, xfce, etc. I'm
> > so
> > > illiterate with these terms that I have no idea of what looks like
> what.
> > I
> > > do know I have the newest release for ubuntu: 12.04 lts. There were
> some
> > > initial things I didn't like but I've become accustomed to those things
> > and
> > > don't mind them so much now. I'm not good at knowing how to modify
> what's
> > > already in place because one, I don't know how and secondly, if I
> tried,
> > I
> > > fear screwing everything up but that isn't a bad thing since I could
> just
> > > reinstall everything. If I knew more about coding and modifying, id be
> > able
> > > to comment better but so far I like 12.04 lts on my laptop. Except
> that I
> > > keep getting the password prompt for the keyring for some software. I
> > need
> > > to reinstall my os to see if that goes away.
> > > On Jun 11, 2012 10:55 PM, <ubuntu-us-in-request at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> > >> 1. Ubuntu 10.10 (Ryan Hoots)
> > >> 2. Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Phil Buckler)
> > >> 3. Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (John Hayden)
> > >> 4. Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (John Hayden)
> > >> 5. Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Jeremy L. Gaddis)
> > >> 6. Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Sim?n Ruiz)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 1
> > >> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:46:16 -0400
> > >> From: Ryan Hoots <overlord at ryanhoots.com>
> > >> To: "Ubuntu's Indiana Local Community Team"
> > >> <ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > >> Subject: [ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu 10.10
> > >> Message-ID:
> > >> <CABLBoOPKVuXEb=yUWjtK0o7c5OZ=
> > 3PyS4tXLqLMqqpi59_hQEw at mail.gmail.com
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> > >>
> > >> I was recently thinking about Ubuntu's 2010 releases, specifically
> > 10.10,
> > >> which has just reached its end of life. I liked 10.10 a lot, in fact
> > it's
> > >> still in use on about %25 of my computers because I like it so much.
> > >> So, now that it's retired, I face a problem. Newer Ubuntu releases
> don't
> > >> work with my hardware very well, even my brand new laptop I just got
> > >> recently. But 10.10 is fine on it.
> > >> My idea is to unofficially continue Ubuntu 10.10's development as a
> new
> > >> Linux distribution, sort of like what MATE did with GNOME 2. In fact,
> > MATE
> > >> might even be installed on this new distro by default.
> > >> So, I'd like to know, what's your opinion of this idea? Is it
> > worthwhile,
> > >> or is it doomed to failure?
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Ryan
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> www.ryanhoots.com
> > >>
> > >> Sent to you on my Linux? laptop- where else would I risk logging in to
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> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 2
> > >> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:24:01 -0500
> > >> From: Phil Buckler <buck2825 at gmail.com>
> > >> To: "Ubuntu's Indiana Local Community Team"
> > >> <ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu 10.10
> > >> Message-ID:
> > >> <CAOrQvYQrPb25gRqB6kEFxFrYghwWw7WPb3xtSmoB3DDbz+=+
> > UA at mail.gmail.com
> > >>>
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> > >>
> > >> I agree and have been internally fighting with this decision the past
> > few
> > >> weeks. Initially I told myself that Unity would get better just give
> it
> > >> time. Well here we are 12.04 LTS is out and Unity sucks, Gnome 3 is
> > worse
> > >> and I find myself frustrated asking if I should just install windows
> 7.
> > I
> > >> don't know what the answer is but I don't think yet another linux
> > distro is
> > >> the answer. When I look at linux distros I look
> > >> for longevity, financial sound business model, and usability. I am
> > now 6
> > >> year using Ubuntu so I have amassed several tools and software
> packages
> > >> that I like and know. So I tend to lean toward a Debian OS of some
> > flavor.
> > >> I don't want to get much more then one distro removed from the Debian
> > for
> > >> the support. That is the reason I have downloaded an am now
> > >> testing Linux Mint Debian. I'm still not sure what i'm going to end
> up
> > >> with but it should be thoroughly frustrating.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -Phil
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Ryan Hoots <overlord at ryanhoots.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I was recently thinking about Ubuntu's 2010 releases, specifically
> > 10.10,
> > >>> which has just reached its end of life. I liked 10.10 a lot, in fact
> > it's
> > >>> still in use on about %25 of my computers because I like it so much.
> > >>> So, now that it's retired, I face a problem. Newer Ubuntu releases
> > don't
> > >>> work with my hardware very well, even my brand new laptop I just got
> > >>> recently. But 10.10 is fine on it.
> > >>> My idea is to unofficially continue Ubuntu 10.10's development as a
> new
> > >>> Linux distribution, sort of like what MATE did with GNOME 2. In fact,
> > >> MATE
> > >>> might even be installed on this new distro by default.
> > >>> So, I'd like to know, what's your opinion of this idea? Is it
> > worthwhile,
> > >>> or is it doomed to failure?
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Ryan
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> www.ryanhoots.com
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent to you on my Linux? laptop- where else would I risk logging in
> to
> > >>> Gmail?
> > >>>
> > >>>
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> > >>
> > >> Message: 3
> > >> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:33:16 -0400
> > >> From: John Hayden <johnhayden83 at gmail.com>
> > >> To: "Ubuntu's Indiana Local Community Team"
> > >> <ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu 10.10
> > >> Message-ID:
> > >> <CAATzOJjc=K6DU7eWKcxd3qAe=
> > rOMVCVDbQfgKn5Kd9sXpHThoQ at mail.gmail.com
> > >>>
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> > >>
> > >> I would tend to agree with you. I would do whatever works best for
> you.
> > If
> > >> the new were you going to does not work with your computer, Why
> upgrade
> > and
> > >> give yourself problems. Besides, it should still work fine for quite a
> > >> while Without any updates.
> > >> Of course this is only just my opinion On the matter. But you could
> > >> possibly even use a different distro That runs better on Lower and
> > >> computers.
> > >> On Jun 11, 2012 11:46 AM, "Ryan Hoots" <overlord at ryanhoots.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I was recently thinking about Ubuntu's 2010 releases, specifically
> > 10.10,
> > >>> which has just reached its end of life. I liked 10.10 a lot, in fact
> > it's
> > >>> still in use on about %25 of my computers because I like it so much.
> > >>> So, now that it's retired, I face a problem. Newer Ubuntu releases
> > don't
> > >>> work with my hardware very well, even my brand new laptop I just got
> > >>> recently. But 10.10 is fine on it.
> > >>> My idea is to unofficially continue Ubuntu 10.10's development as a
> new
> > >>> Linux distribution, sort of like what MATE did with GNOME 2. In fact,
> > >> MATE
> > >>> might even be installed on this new distro by default.
> > >>> So, I'd like to know, what's your opinion of this idea? Is it
> > worthwhile,
> > >>> or is it doomed to failure?
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Ryan
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> www.ryanhoots.com
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent to you on my Linux? laptop- where else would I risk logging in
> to
> > >>> Gmail?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
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> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 4
> > >> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:37:40 -0400
> > >> From: John Hayden <johnhayden83 at gmail.com>
> > >> To: "Ubuntu's Indiana Local Community Team"
> > >> <ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu 10.10
> > >> Message-ID:
> > >> <
> > CAATzOJhDaBk_VrUg4yqg-SLR-QytH+UZo8Pv+hLCJV2yButU-w at mail.gmail.com
> > >>>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >>
> > >> Please forgive all the grammatical errors in my last response. I am
> > sending
> > >> this via voice reply.
> > >> On Jun 11, 2012 12:33 PM, "John Hayden" <johnhayden83 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I would tend to agree with you. I would do whatever works best for
> you.
> > >>> If the new were you going to does not work with your computer, Why
> > >> upgrade
> > >>> and give yourself problems. Besides, it should still work fine for
> > quite
> > >> a
> > >>> while Without any updates.
> > >>> Of course this is only just my opinion On the matter. But you could
> > >>> possibly even use a different distro That runs better on Lower and
> > >>> computers.
> > >>> On Jun 11, 2012 11:46 AM, "Ryan Hoots" <overlord at ryanhoots.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I was recently thinking about Ubuntu's 2010 releases, specifically
> > >> 10.10,
> > >>>> which has just reached its end of life. I liked 10.10 a lot, in fact
> > >> it's
> > >>>> still in use on about %25 of my computers because I like it so much.
> > >>>> So, now that it's retired, I face a problem. Newer Ubuntu releases
> > don't
> > >>>> work with my hardware very well, even my brand new laptop I just got
> > >>>> recently. But 10.10 is fine on it.
> > >>>> My idea is to unofficially continue Ubuntu 10.10's development as a
> > new
> > >>>> Linux distribution, sort of like what MATE did with GNOME 2. In
> fact,
> > >> MATE
> > >>>> might even be installed on this new distro by default.
> > >>>> So, I'd like to know, what's your opinion of this idea? Is it
> > >> worthwhile,
> > >>>> or is it doomed to failure?
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Ryan
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> www.ryanhoots.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sent to you on my Linux? laptop- where else would I risk logging in
> to
> > >>>> Gmail?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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> > >>
> > >> Message: 5
> > >> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:03:03 -0400
> > >> From: "Jeremy L. Gaddis" <jlgaddis at gnu.org>
> > >> To: Ubuntu's Indiana Local Community Team
> > >> <ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu 10.10
> > >> Message-ID: <3747E465-2535-485E-BA47-EA2FED9B3F6E at gnu.org>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> > >>
> > >> If you like Ubuntu, stick with Ubuntu. Personally, I'm a huge fan of
> > >> Debian.
> > >>
> > >> I don't care for Unity or Gnome 3 or KDE, for that matter, but I do
> make
> > >> use of Xfce, awesome, and xmonad at various times. I have one single
> > >> "desktop" PC left and it runs Debian w/ Xfce quite nicely.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Jeremy L. Gaddis
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Ryan Hoots wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I was recently thinking about Ubuntu's 2010 releases, specifically
> > >> 10.10, which has just reached its end of life. I liked 10.10 a lot, in
> > fact
> > >> it's still in use on about %25 of my computers because I like it so
> > much.
> > >>> So, now that it's retired, I face a problem. Newer Ubuntu releases
> > don't
> > >> work with my hardware very well, even my brand new laptop I just got
> > >> recently. But 10.10 is fine on it.
> > >>> My idea is to unofficially continue Ubuntu 10.10's development as a
> new
> > >> Linux distribution, sort of like what MATE did with GNOME 2. In fact,
> > MATE
> > >> might even be installed on this new distro by default.
> > >>> So, I'd like to know, what's your opinion of this idea? Is it
> > >> worthwhile, or is it doomed to failure?
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Ryan
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> www.ryanhoots.com
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent to you on my Linux? laptop- where else would I risk logging in
> to
> > >> Gmail?
> > >>>
> > >>> --
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 6
> > >> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:55:06 -0400
> > >> From: Sim?n Ruiz <simon.a.ruiz at gmail.com>
> > >> To: "Ubuntu's Indiana Local Community Team"
> > >> <ubuntu-us-in at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu 10.10
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> > >> I've been playing around with Linux Mint, lately; I haven't been
> > >> minding Unity, but unfortunately Precise stopped working on some of
> > >> the older hardware (Dell Latitude D610) we use in class for the O.S.
> > >> install lab we run our ninth graders through. I've tried several of
> > >> the Ubuntu variants, but they all hang right at the end of the Ubuntu
> > >> thermometer bar.
> > >>
> > >> I'm hoping Linux Mint lets me continue to use Ubuntu for that lab,
> > >> otherwise I'll have to cast farther afield for an appropriate modern
> > >> Linux distro to use.
> > >>
> > >> Sim?n
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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