[ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu-us-in Digest, Vol 49, Issue 2

Sobieralski, Damian Michael dsobiera at indiana.edu
Tue Jun 12 14:53:00 UTC 2012


Not to dismiss those that are having problems w/ the new UI but I've been using Unity for a while and it seems fine for my general desktop computing.  As I was forced to be on OSX for a while I got used to the dock in OSX.  So Unity wasn't really that big of a deal for me when I moved back to Ubuntu.

Compiz running w/ it I find my hardware on my laptop has issues with at times. But I run in 2d Unity mode and all seems to work just fine. At home I run Unity in 3d mode w/ no problems. For a UI that's only been around for a very short time I think Unity is progressing along fine. But I do admit it isn't anywhere near to being polished as the ones that have been around for some time.

Again, this is not meant to poo poo on those that don't like the new UI that GNOME 3 or Unity gives them. It's just for me, I'm trying to adapt to the new UI as they come out.  But I can certainly understand the crowd that would rather have keyboard and hardware requirement simplicity over the new stuff.

-Damian

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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:59:58 -0400
From: Charlie Luna <war.tribe.mc at gmail.com>
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I wish I could make an intelligent sounding comment about what you guys are talking about but I constantly find myself stumped with all the types of interfaces, if that's what they're called. Unity, gnome, xfce, etc. I'm so illiterate with these terms that I have no idea of what looks like what. I do know I have the newest release for ubuntu: 12.04 lts. There were some initial things I didn't like but I've become accustomed to those things and don't mind them so much now. I'm not good at knowing how to modify what's already in place because one, I don't know how and secondly, if I tried, I fear screwing everything up but that isn't a bad thing since I could just reinstall everything. If I knew more about coding and modifying, id be able to comment better but so far I like 12.04 lts on my laptop. Except that I keep getting the password prompt for the keyring for some software. I need to reinstall my os to see if that goes away.
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> From: Ryan Hoots <overlord at ryanhoots.com>
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> Subject: [ubuntu-us-in] Ubuntu 10.10
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> I was recently thinking about Ubuntu's 2010 releases, specifically 
> 10.10, which has just reached its end of life. I liked 10.10 a lot, in 
> fact it's still in use on about %25 of my computers because I like it so much.
> So, now that it's retired, I face a problem. Newer Ubuntu releases 
> don't work with my hardware very well, even my brand new laptop I just 
> got recently. But 10.10 is fine on it.
> My idea is to unofficially continue Ubuntu 10.10's development as a 
> new Linux distribution, sort of like what MATE did with GNOME 2. In 
> fact, MATE might even be installed on this new distro by default.
> So, I'd like to know, what's your opinion of this idea? Is it 
> worthwhile, or is it doomed to failure?
> Thanks,
> Ryan
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> --
> www.ryanhoots.com
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> From: Phil Buckler <buck2825 at gmail.com>
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> I agree and have been internally fighting with this decision the past 
> few weeks.  Initially I told myself that Unity would get better just 
> give it time.  Well here we are 12.04 LTS is out and Unity sucks, 
> Gnome 3 is worse and I find myself frustrated asking if I should just 
> install windows 7.  I don't know what the answer is but I don't think 
> yet another linux distro is the answer.  When I look at linux distros I look
> for longevity, financial sound business model, and usability.   I am now 6
> year using Ubuntu so I have amassed several tools and software 
> packages that I like and know.  So I tend to lean toward a Debian OS of some flavor.
>  I don't want to get much more then one distro removed from the Debian 
> for the support.  That is the reason I have downloaded an am now 
> testing Linux Mint Debian.  I'm still not sure what i'm going to end 
> up with but it should be thoroughly frustrating.
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>
> -Phil
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> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Ryan Hoots <overlord at ryanhoots.com>
> wrote:
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> > I was recently thinking about Ubuntu's 2010 releases, specifically 
> > 10.10, which has just reached its end of life. I liked 10.10 a lot, 
> > in fact it's still in use on about %25 of my computers because I like it so much.
> > So, now that it's retired, I face a problem. Newer Ubuntu releases 
> > don't work with my hardware very well, even my brand new laptop I 
> > just got recently. But 10.10 is fine on it.
> > My idea is to unofficially continue Ubuntu 10.10's development as a 
> > new Linux distribution, sort of like what MATE did with GNOME 2. In 
> > fact,
> MATE
> > might even be installed on this new distro by default.
> > So, I'd like to know, what's your opinion of this idea? Is it 
> > worthwhile, or is it doomed to failure?
> > Thanks,
> > Ryan
> >
> > --
> > www.ryanhoots.com
> >
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> I would tend to agree with you. I would do whatever works best for 
> you.  If the new were you going to does not work with your computer, 
> Why upgrade and give yourself problems. Besides, it should still work 
> fine for quite a while Without any updates.
> Of course this is only just my opinion On the matter. But you could 
> possibly even use a different distro That runs better on Lower and 
> computers.
> On Jun 11, 2012 11:46 AM, "Ryan Hoots" <overlord at ryanhoots.com> wrote:
>
> > I was recently thinking about Ubuntu's 2010 releases, specifically 
> > 10.10, which has just reached its end of life. I liked 10.10 a lot, 
> > in fact it's still in use on about %25 of my computers because I like it so much.
> > So, now that it's retired, I face a problem. Newer Ubuntu releases 
> > don't work with my hardware very well, even my brand new laptop I 
> > just got recently. But 10.10 is fine on it.
> > My idea is to unofficially continue Ubuntu 10.10's development as a 
> > new Linux distribution, sort of like what MATE did with GNOME 2. In 
> > fact,
> MATE
> > might even be installed on this new distro by default.
> > So, I'd like to know, what's your opinion of this idea? Is it 
> > worthwhile, or is it doomed to failure?
> > Thanks,
> > Ryan
> >
> > --
> > www.ryanhoots.com
> >
> > Sent to you on my Linux? laptop- where else would I risk logging in 
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> Please forgive all the grammatical errors in my last response. I am 
> sending this via voice reply.
> On Jun 11, 2012 12:33 PM, "John Hayden" <johnhayden83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I would tend to agree with you. I would do whatever works best for you.
> > If the new were you going to does not work with your computer, Why
> upgrade
> > and give yourself problems. Besides, it should still work fine for 
> > quite
> a
> > while Without any updates.
> > Of course this is only just my opinion On the matter. But you could 
> > possibly even use a different distro That runs better on Lower and 
> > computers.
> > On Jun 11, 2012 11:46 AM, "Ryan Hoots" <overlord at ryanhoots.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I was recently thinking about Ubuntu's 2010 releases, specifically
> 10.10,
> >> which has just reached its end of life. I liked 10.10 a lot, in 
> >> fact
> it's
> >> still in use on about %25 of my computers because I like it so much.
> >> So, now that it's retired, I face a problem. Newer Ubuntu releases 
> >> don't work with my hardware very well, even my brand new laptop I 
> >> just got recently. But 10.10 is fine on it.
> >> My idea is to unofficially continue Ubuntu 10.10's development as a 
> >> new Linux distribution, sort of like what MATE did with GNOME 2. In 
> >> fact,
> MATE
> >> might even be installed on this new distro by default.
> >> So, I'd like to know, what's your opinion of this idea? Is it
> worthwhile,
> >> or is it doomed to failure?
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ryan
> >>
> >> --
> >> www.ryanhoots.com
> >>
> >> Sent to you on my Linux? laptop- where else would I risk logging in 
> >> to Gmail?
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> From: "Jeremy L. Gaddis" <jlgaddis at gnu.org>
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> If you like Ubuntu, stick with Ubuntu.  Personally, I'm a huge fan of 
> Debian.
>
> I don't care for Unity or Gnome 3 or KDE, for that matter, but I do 
> make use of Xfce, awesome, and xmonad at various times.  I have one 
> single "desktop" PC left and it runs Debian w/ Xfce quite nicely.
>
> --
> Jeremy L. Gaddis
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>
>
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Ryan Hoots wrote:
>
> > I was recently thinking about Ubuntu's 2010 releases, specifically
> 10.10, which has just reached its end of life. I liked 10.10 a lot, in 
> fact it's still in use on about %25 of my computers because I like it so much.
> > So, now that it's retired, I face a problem. Newer Ubuntu releases 
> > don't
> work with my hardware very well, even my brand new laptop I just got 
> recently. But 10.10 is fine on it.
> > My idea is to unofficially continue Ubuntu 10.10's development as a 
> > new
> Linux distribution, sort of like what MATE did with GNOME 2. In fact, 
> MATE might even be installed on this new distro by default.
> > So, I'd like to know, what's your opinion of this idea? Is it
> worthwhile, or is it doomed to failure?
> > Thanks,
> > Ryan
> >
> > --
> > www.ryanhoots.com
> >
> > Sent to you on my Linux? laptop- where else would I risk logging in 
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> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:55:06 -0400
> From: Sim?n Ruiz <simon.a.ruiz at gmail.com>
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> I've been playing around with Linux Mint, lately; I haven't been 
> minding Unity, but unfortunately Precise stopped working on some of 
> the older hardware (Dell Latitude D610) we use in class for the O.S.
> install lab we run our ninth graders through. I've tried several of 
> the Ubuntu variants, but they all hang right at the end of the Ubuntu 
> thermometer bar.
>
> I'm hoping Linux Mint lets me continue to use Ubuntu for that lab, 
> otherwise I'll have to cast farther afield for an appropriate modern 
> Linux distro to use.
>
> Sim?n
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