http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stjOjarwcI8 -- Phil Shapiro pshapiro at his.com http://www.his.com/pshapiro/briefbio.html http://www.twitter.com/philshapiro http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html "Wisdom begins with wonder." - Socrates "Learning happens thru gentleness."