[CoLoCo] Unity decision: (Fwd) Default Desktop Experience for 11.04

[Nick Post]

Whilst keeping an open mind about Unity, or at least as much as possible, I
will also tread on the side of caution and stick with GNOME for a while. At
least until I've worked with Unity enough on a vm or test laptop. I am
undecided, and to be fair, only protest the change simply because I don't
like drastic change, haha!

Nick

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Aaron D. Gerber <gerberad at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd say there's roughly about a 1% chance I'll be using Unity this round as
> opposed to falling back on classic GNOME, as I personally don't think Unity
> is ready for prime-time. At the same time though, I'm sure it'll get much
> quicker integration and bug fixes if they just go for it. And who am I to
> complain about Ubuntu / Canonical not pushing the envelop enough for the
> past 3 releases and then as soon as they do, I complain they're pushing it
> too fast! :) It'll be interesting to see which way they go.
>
> Thanks for the info Neal!
>
> Aaron-
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Jeremy Lincicome <w0jrl1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>> On 04/08/2011 09:19 AM, David Overcash wrote:
>> > Interesting ...  I had suspicions that the groans in the community would
>> > be heard and Unity might be delayed...  That being said, I'm all for
>> > just pushing it live.  At the worst, I'll personally stick with 10.10
>> > until Unity works as I need it to.  But hey- that's just me.  :)
>> >
>> > -David
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Neal McBurnett <neal at bcn.boulder.co.us
>> > <mailto:neal at bcn.boulder.co.us>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     If folks want to weigh in on the final decision, here's your chance.
>> >
>> >     Neal McBurnett                 http://neal.mcburnett.org/
>> >
>> >     ----- Forwarded message from Rick Spencer
>> >     <rick.spencer at canonical.com <mailto:rick.spencer at canonical.com>>
>> -----
>> >
>> >     To: ubuntu-desktop at lists.ubuntu.com
>> >     <mailto:ubuntu-desktop at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> >     Cc: ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:
>> ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> >     From: Rick Spencer <rick.spencer at canonical.com
>> >     <mailto:rick.spencer at canonical.com>>
>> >     Subject: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04
>> >     Organization: Canonical
>> >
>> >     Hello all,
>> >
>> >     Back at UDS for 11.04 in Orlando, Mark set the goal of using Unity
>> by
>> >     default on the Ubutu desktop. Given the current course of
>> development,
>> >     it appears that we are going to achieve this goal, and Unity will
>> stay
>> >     the default for 11.04.
>> >
>> >     I'm following up on this list at the suggestion of the Tech Board to
>> >     give folks a chance to respond or escelate any concerns.
>> >
>> >     Note that there are some arguments for changing the default from
>> Unity
>> >     to "classic' GNOME:
>> >     1. There are key feature regressions, for example, there is no
>> systray
>> >     support for many important applications.
>> >     2. There are usability problems, for example, settings are hard to
>> find,
>> >     the launcher icons behave differently when you click on the trash
>> can
>> >     versus the home folder launcher, it's hard to find a categorized
>> view of
>> >     applications, searches do not always turn up expected results.
>> >     3. We are coming in too hot, there are too many crashers on some
>> >     hardware and the final product will be buggy.
>> >
>> >     I won't rebut these points myself, as I am rather striving to
>> represent
>> >     the viewpoints not argue against them.
>> >
>> >     Representing the desktop team, Jason Warner believes that Unity will
>> >     deliver the superior experience for most users in 11.04. I agree
>> with
>> >     this position and support staying the course.
>> >
>> >     Cheers, Rick
>> >
>> >     PS - You can reference the recent and current bug fixing efforts of
>> the
>> >     Unity team here:
>> >     https://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/3.8.4
>> >     https://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/3.8.6
>> >     https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity
>> >
>> >
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>> I personally don't use Unity because of accessibility issues, but the
>> more people that use Unity and file bugs against it, the better it will
>> become.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeremy
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