[CoLoCo] Fwd: Ubuntu LoCo's should move to LibrePlanet

[Joey Stanford]

Interesting

Note: these are my own views, not those of my employer.... I'm just
sub'd to the list with this email address....


> The reason that Ubuntu's local
> community teams should move to LibrePlanet is because having one of the
> worlds strongest FLOSS advocacy networks centered around one piece of
> software and sponsored by one company is a disservice to the greater free
> software community.

Hmm, said another way this is "let's find an existing team that's
great and try to steal them away and break their defining point."

The focus here is on taking something away from Ubuntu, not on how we
can improve the overall footprint and market share of Linux.

Ubuntu was built, it was successful, and people came.  These guys
should do the same and not try to pilfer.



> I have been heavily involved in Ubuntu advocacy for years, but for a while
> now, i've been considering the prospect of local teams operating independent
> of Canonical.

The Ubuntu LoCo teams are Ubuntu LoCo teams, not Canonical LoCo teams
so this perspective is flawed.


> A team not entirely exclusive to
> Ubuntu can just as easily choose to promote Ubuntu exclusively for events
> aimed at the general public.

Yeah, we call these LUGs today and the Colorado LoCo inter-operates
with all the local ones providing them additional resources.
If were to use his logic but for Ubuntu's gain we would say LUGs
should disband and join the Ubuntu LoCo team because we're the biggest
and most effective distro. It's horrible. We need LUGs and we need
Ubuntu LoCos.

>Ubuntu may be the best now, but if something
> better came along or if Ubuntu went downhill, we should be able and ready to
> adapt.

As above. It sounds like this guy is jealous of Ubuntu's success.


> Canonical also provides printed install discs to officially approved
> teams, but there is no reason why Canonical should not provide sponsorship
> to any team of people who will be promoting Ubuntu.

They do already and you can see this on their website.


> Being a LoCo does in many ways lock you in to promoting Ubuntu.

Well, duh. That's the whole point! We're proud of Ubuntu and want to
promote it. We use it too.  If the case arises where something else,
like CentOS, is better, we'd suggest that. In fact, we have! The
Boulder D-STAR repeater is running CentOS, not Ubuntu. And we have
some fun things that Tummy up in Loveland has built...etc...


> The very reason i began taking this idea
> seriously is because some non-Ubuntu users wanted to get involved with an
> event organized by my local community team, but did not want to work under
> an Ubuntu banner (literally).

What's wrong with LUGs? They predate Ubuntu and Ubuntu LoCo teams and
do fabulous work!


I don't know, maybe it's me but I find these arguments completely off
base. Just my opinion though.

J