[CoLoCo] Fwd: [lug] Remote Healthcare Training for the Developing World pilot - advice needed!
keen101 at gmail.com
Wed Sep 24 00:48:32 BST 2008
My name is Andrew I'm only 18, and not really a programmer either, but i
have a few projects you could look into. I am an Ubuntu user, and really
haven't tried that many other distros yet, so i don't know too much if any
other distros will fit you needs better or not. You said ultra-lowcost PCs
were going to be used, and while Ubuntu will probably work on most systems
just fine I'm wondering if a light version of Ubuntu might be needed if the
ultra-lowcost PCs are UMPC's or older systems. If that is the case i'd
probably reccomend Xubuntu. Xubuntu is bacically the same robust Ubuntu
system underneath, but with a lightweight XFCE desktop environment instead
of the usual GNOME environment provided. The Xubuntu systems usually work
better on older systems due to the fact that they can get by fine when less
RAM is available.
I really like your enthusiasm toward Open Source software in solving your
problem for healthcare in developing countries. I'm by no means a Linux
GURU, and when compared to people like Neal, i'm still a beginer. I really
like the idea of your system to be multilingual. Most Open Source programs
i've encountered seem to have that capability, and it seems like it could
really help out in situations like these. I think a lot of these programs
run on a GUI interface called GTK http://www.gtk.org/
I really dont know much about it, but i think it should be easy to use the
existing Language Locale stuff to have multilingual support. I tried using
Google to help me find more info about it, and only found these two
webpages. I hope they help.
I also found an interesting looking multilingual content management system.
I don't know anyting about it either, but it looks kind of neat.
And last there might be one other open source project you might want to look
at. That would be the offline wikipedia CD. It is an interesting program
that perhaps could be modified to your use. I reccomend downloading and
burining the .ISO to a CD for testing. See how you like the Kiwix interface.
hope at least some of this info helps. If not, i hope you find something
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Neal McBurnett <neal at bcn.boulder.co.us>wrote:
> Gail asked a question, and I got some more details and am forwarding
> them on. And I'm cross-posting to the Colorado Ubuntu Linux Team and
> changing it to excerpted-bottom-posting for sequential clarity....
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Gail Austin <gail_austin_co at yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > Hello: I work for a Virginia healthcare nonprofit and live on the
> Hill in
> > > Boulder. I need advice & counsel on which version of Linux & open
> > source stack
> > > to use in a training system pilot for the developing world.
> > >
> > > I am developing a self-contained learning system to train community
> > > workers in developing countries, to help address a dire shortage
> > healthcare
> > > workers in these countries (numbering close to a million worker
> > > according to the World Health Org), particularly in rural/village
> > locations. We
> > > plan to pilot this system in rural community health centers in
> India, to
> > > train workers who are functioning as de facto nurse practitioners
> > little
> > > to no medical training. This is a purely charitable initiative to
> > > incredibly hard-working yet impoverished communities become more
> > > self-sufficient by sharing knowledge that is literally life-saving.
> > >
> > > We plan to use all open source content and software on
> ultra-lowcost PCs
> > so
> > > that this system will make sense to deploy in the developing world.
> I have
> > > training development experience on Windows ($$$$ hissss.....) and
> > > of COTS software (even more $$$$$$$$), but none on Linux. HELP! I
> > advice
> > > and counsel on which version of Linux to use, as well as the most
> > promising
> > > open source software stack for this application.
> > >
> > > I'd be delighted to buy really any number of the caffeinated
> > of your
> > > choice in exchange for some informed advice and counsel!
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for any help you can give this Linux newbie!
> > >
> > > Your neighbor from the wild & wonderful Hill,
> > > Gail Austin
> > --- On Tue, 9/23/08, Neal McBurnett <neal at bcn.boulder.co.us> wrote:
> > Gail, sounds great - thanks.
> > I'm partial to Ubuntu linux.
> > The software stack depends a lot on what you have in mind. Static
> > content (like web pages on the hard disk?) Video? Interactive
> > applications? Patient record systems? What?
> > Will there be internet connectivity?
> > What do you know how to make and use now - e.g. what tools did you
> > before? And what exactly are you wanting to do - what would come
> > first in your mind?
> > Who is going to translate this stuff?
> > Moodle is the first thing that comes to mind: http://moodle.org/
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 02:57:41PM -0700, Gail Austin wrote:
> > Neal: THANKS! You asked great questions - I tried to keep answers short
> > enough so you can give me an idea if Ubuntu is likely to be a fit:
> > Connectivity: The assumption is no Internet or other connectivity, so the
> > system has to be self- contained - the whole software stack as well as
> all the
> > content for 3 months of training has to fit on an ultralowcost PC.
> > Content: The content will be structured as a hierarchical set of learning
> > objects each of which teaches a task & its supporting facts, rules &
> > vocabulary. The learning objects will include text, graphics, short
> > interactive exercises and full audio recorded by local speakers (to
> > for low literacy). Flash executables might be used to present the content
> > sychronized audio (I use Adobe Captivate now to develop
> > SCORM-compliant interactive content objects in Flash for web delivery,
> but they
> > can also be stored on users' PCs as executables, so at least this part I
> know I
> > can do...).
> > User Interface - I need a good opensource learning mgmt system (you
> > Moodle- others have as well- I need to figure out if it's practical to
> > freestanding rather than web-based). We used many wildly expensive COTS
> > at Sun, and I admin a hosted EZLCMS site (much less expensive but also
> > now for the nonprofit I work for.
> > Features: A key feature of the pilot system is prescriptive
> > The goal is to give learners a tool to make sure they've learned the
> > moving at their own pace, so they pass the certification exam. So the
> idea is
> > to develop a (large) pool of questions, tagged to learning objects, which
> > system assembles into periodic exercises, drills and quizzes. At any
> point, the
> > content or activity that is served next to the learner is determined by
> > algorithm based on the learner's performance up to that point. At Sun,
> > again we solved this with expensive COTS. So I need an open-source
> > tool and database that can store, assemble based on an algorithm, deliver
> > score interactive quizzes, storing the results in a database. Depending
> > what's out there, I may need to hire someone to write some add-on code to
> > make this happen, since unfortunately I am no coder....
> > Translation: Ultimately we'll need a good open source content management
> > system for efficient language versioning of the base content. For the
> > fortunately English will work. Assuming the pilot results are promising,
> > get funding to hire native speakers to translate the content to Hindi &
> go on
> > from there.
> > So do you think Ubuntu would be a good fit? I have an extra PC to use as
> > sandbox on the condition that I restore it when I return it. I'm thinking
> > using Ghost to back up the PC on an external hard drive (removing all
> > and data except Windows itself), and then partitioning the PC hard drive
> > into Windows and Ubuntu partitions (Windows so I can run Ghost to restore
> > PC when needed), then installing the recommended stack for Moodle and
> > itself (assuming all this even *fits* on a PC...), then try installing an
> > source assessment tool (trying each application out after installing it,
> > Moodle and the assessment tool, to see how much of what I need done they
> can do
> > out of the box).
> > Having said all this, I've never partitioned a hard drive in my life, but
> > there's always a first time...
> > Does this sound reasonable to you?
> > Thanks *very much* for your advice!
> Who knows some good tools to correspond to what Gail is looking for?
> Neal McBurnett http://mcburnett.org/neal/
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