[CoLoCo] Dual-boot and wine options (again again)

Neal McBurnett neal at bcn.boulder.co.us
Fri Jun 20 04:22:44 BST 2008


On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 06:07:53PM -0600, David Overcash wrote:
> I'd love to be at that meetup too...
> 
> Which panera?  7 Sounds good!

Excellent.  Panera in Longmont?  7 is fine.  And we can also talk
about the TIE 2008 stuff next week (!).

-Neal

> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:41 PM, David L. Willson <DLWillson at thegeek.nu> wrote:
> 
>     One more email:  You GO, Jeff.  You're my hero.  You haven't steered 'em
>     wrong.  I'm a
>     SysAdmin, I run Linux everywhere, for everything, and I'll help as time
>     allows.
> 
>     Tomorrow's Panera sounds good, if you're OK with late, like 7PM.
> 
>     On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:23:49 -0700 (PDT), Jeffrey LePage wrote
>     > Let me address these questions:
>     > A) Why Linux and not windows if these are for teachers and staff?
>     > -------------------------------------------------------------------
>     > The desktops are part of a larger deployment that includes a bunch of
>     Asus Eee
>     > PC's for the kids and a couple dozen existing Linux laptops (old PII's
>     happily
>     > running Xubuntu).  Plus a bunch of Linux based IT infrastructure:
>     firewalls,
>     > web filtering, samba servers, wireless, etc.  Basically,  1) we wanted
>     cheap
>     > hardware that could run ubuntu (but would have problems with Vista), 2)
>     we
>     > didn't want to deal with the license police about anything, 3) we didn't
>     want
>     > to deal with viruses, 4) we wanted something on the desktops that was
>     like the
>     > OS on the Eee's, 5) I told them Linux was really really cool, 6) they
>     talked
>     > to Mike Huffman*** of the Indiana State Dept of education and he told
>     them
>     > Linux was really really cool, 7) we looked at the apps we needed and they
>     > don't need any MS apps, 8) legacy windoze support is being handled by
>     their
>     > existing Win2k3 server and 25 remote desktop licences, 9) I'll be
>     > administering these machines and I don't want to spend the rest of my
>     days
>     > dealing with windows annoyances.
>     >
>     > Also, some of you seem to be suggesting that Linux is only good for
>     students;
>     > teachers should get windows.  Why do think that?
>     >
>     > ***Mike Huffman is my hero.  He's in charge of rolling out a Linux
>     desktop for
>     > each and every single high school student in Indiana.  Google it.  In
>     total
>     > there will eventually be 300,000 linux boxes.
>     >
>     > B) Why not thin clients?
>     > --------------------------
>     > I broached this topic early on.  I even showed them a functioning
>     thin-client.
>     >  But they never really regarded thin-clients as viable substitutes for
>     > admin/teacher computers.  I think the thought of that sort of
>     infrastructure
>     > was a little overwhelming for them. They're just more comfortable with
>     normal
>     > desktops.  The idea was quickly dismissed and I didn't push it.  They
>     opted
>     > for a classroom with one solid Linux desktop, 2 of the old Linux laptops
>     for
>     > student use, and 1-2 Eee's for student use. They like the Asus Eee's
>     because
>     > they're small, cheap, and wireless capable.
>     >
>     > <Sigh>
>     > This is my son's school.  I really don't want to think that I've steered
>     these
>     > people wrong.  If anyone wants to offer more advice I'd be happy to
>     listen.
>     > Emails are getting tiresome though.   Does anyone feel like going to
>     Panera's
>     > on Friday after work?
>     >
>     > --
>     > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
>     > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
>     >
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