[CoLoCo] Webmin???

[Kevin Fries]

ahh nuts, here we go again.

Linux is supposed to be about choice, but the Ubuntu distro is more and
more showing that its just not industrial strength.  ebox does not have
the industry wide support that webmin has.  Funny thing is that I often
use webmin only for firewall configuration.  And, ebox does not appear
to support shorewall, or any other standard firewall configuration
utility.

Again, Linux is supposed to be about choice, but more and more Ubuntu is
removing/limiting perfectly good packages and I am being told what to
run (VMWare and VBox last week, Webmin this week).  I almost feel like I
have been advocating the Linux worlds version of Microsoft (we will tell
you what email server to run, we will tell you what database to run,
etc, trust us, we know best).

Oh well, I guess two more servers need to be schedule for conversion to
CentOS.

Kevin Fries



On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 10:19 -0700, Neal McBurnett wrote:
> Webmin has not been in any Ubuntu release since at least dapper:
> 
>  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=webmin&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
> 
> The server team has run into many problem with webmin, as ubotu will
> tell you:
> 
> (11:11:53 AM) nealmcb: !webmin
> 
> ubotu: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not
> compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration
> files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See
> !ebox instead.
> 
> (11:11:53 AM) nealmcb: !ebox
> 
> ubotu: ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
> 
> webmin really doesn't understand debian systems and can change
> your config files in ways that make upgrading, etc, pretty dicey.
> 
> Ebox in gutsy is not recommended, but should be much better in hardy.
> Testing very much welcomed!!!
> 
> Neal McBurnett                 http://mcburnett.org/neal/
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 10:36:06AM -0600, Jeremy Schroeder wrote:
> > I think the one in the repo's was really old, and in the forums and on the
> > interwebs its suggested to install from webmin's site.
> > 
> > Jeremy
> > 
> > PS I love webmin!
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Joey Stanford <joey at canonical.com> wrote:
> > 
> >     was taken out for some reason I suspect. Don't know.   I've been
> >     installing it by hand lately from the webmin page.
> > 
> >     On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Kevin Fries <kfries at cctus.com> wrote:
> >     > Didn't webmin used to exist in the repos?
> >     >
> >     >  I can't seem to find it any longer, and so I have been installing it
> >     >  allot from the webmin website.  Does anyone here know if there is a
> >     >  reason it is not in the repos?
> 
-- 
Kevin Fries
Senior Linux Engineer
Computer and Communications Technology, Inc
A Division of Japan Communications Inc.