[CoLoCo] new t-shirt / help idea

Darrin Goodman darrin.goodman at gmail.com
Fri Oct 12 08:01:54 BST 2007

Yes!  Good call.  I'm glad to see that another state is already doing
this.  The Ohio site looks pretty well in line with what we've been
discussing.  Like all of you, I don't have much in the way of spare
time, but I would be happy to make time to help out with the
development of this site.  It's a worth-while cause, and is for
something that I believe in, so I am willing to make time for it.
Count me in.
- Darrin

On 10/11/07, Alex Comer <alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the links, Neal.
> I did see one nice thing among them that caught my attention: The drupal
> based Ohio coloco site http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/
> To me, apart from the CMS platform, the interesting things about this site
> are:
> 0. Happy smiling faces
> 1. The law of 3 breaks its down to just the few most important and very
> simple easy to understand common use cases (in this instance: What is
> Ubuntu?, About Ohio CoLoCo, Getting support, Download Now,... ok thats 4) so
> there's no feeling from the user of "ok I'm here - what now?"
> 2. Note that most of the secondary links across the top of the page link to
> external sites, such as launchpad, the forums on ubuntuforums.org, the
> launchpad wiki, and of course ubuntu.com. Thus most of the complexity of
> managing those aspects is delegated to existing resources better equipped to
> do so.
> 3. The only other page elements are a "donate now" button, which surely
> every coloco could use :)
> 4. The only real functionality hosted on the site (apart from being a
> friendly landing page) is a support request system, which in their case is
> just a form they can fill out to get a call back, which would suffice I'm
> sure. We could go a step further an install a case tracking system.
> A site (or at least a page) like this would be much better as the
> destination for the URL on the shirt than the coloco site as it exists now.
> In my eyes, a low maintenance site (or at least a landing page) like this
> works well without demanding much effort to maintain or administer. Even if
> it is only a landing page on the existing site, I think we really need
> something like this before we start wearing shirts around town.
> I bet we could even get the guys at the Ohio coloco to send us their very
> ubuntu-ish Drupal theme :)
> Alex
> On 10/11/07, Neal McBurnett <neal at bcn.boulder.co.us> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 10:39:47PM -0600, Alex Comer wrote:
> > > I do agree that _any_ web site does take a certain degree of
> maintenance,
> > > however. But, if we KISS (Keep It Simple...), avoid re-inventing the
> wheel, and
> > > essentially create a simple, consumer oriented, user friendly portal to
> other
> > > resources (pages on the official ubuntu site, videos on youtube, helpful
> > > resources, etc) perhaps we can likewise keep maintenance to a minimum.
> >
> > The playing field moves so fast, I don't think a low-maintenance
> > approach will be worth much.
> >
> > > I'll wear a shirt, but I personally don't have the patience or the time
> to
> > > physically walk users through installs and provide user tech support.
> I'm a
> > > developer, and not much of a people person (though I'm trying to improve
> that).
> >
> > Before we launch the project, I think it would help to find out who
> > really would be willing to put in the time to make it work.  I'm also
> > in the category "sounds good but I don't have the time to do more than
> > help with some advice and infrastructure".
> >
> > > I'm a firm believer that folks should play their "long suit", which in
> my case
> > > at least is development. If I can't help in this way, perhaps I'll look
> at
> > > contributing to the Ubuntu code base in some way. I was attempting to
> figure
> > > out how I could best help the effort, and since drupal web development
> is one
> > > of my specialties, I thought it might be a good way to get involved
> locally.
> >
> > Thanks!  Whether or not we take this project on onw, my sense is that
> > a drupal-based site is the way most locos are now going and I guess
> > it would offer us more flexibility.  [Or django, my favorite - in
> > python!!]  Perhaps you could look at the drupal configs that other
> > locos are using and contrast it with what we've got and suggest some
> > more concrete pros and cons?
> >
> >     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCreatingWebsite
> >
> > And now (or soon?) we can give all coloco members automatic logins
> > by using openids from the launchpad site.   E.g. check out this comment
> > from https://launchpad.net/~jamesh I spotted at joey's blog:
> >
> >
> http://joey.ubuntu-rocks.org/blog/2007/08/31/exaile-from-trac-to-launchpad/#comments
> >
> > and this bug for openid support:
> > https://launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1169
> >
> > Neal McBurnett                 http://mcburnett.org/neal/
> >
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