[CoLoCo] new t-shirt / help idea

Thu Oct 11 20:20:47 BST 2007

The other tech support idea is still in the works. It should happen
eventually. This idea is more of a "I'm a computer geek and will help
you for free if you want to dump MS and go to Ubuntu" kind of idea. I
don't really envision it being a team thing other than that we support
the idea and will put up a single point of contact on the web for shy
people to visit. Maybe we put our email address too and the area we
are in so people who are interested can contact us. If they don't ask
you when they see you they will need some way to contact someone.

Maybe this should be a discussion at the next meeting.

Jim

On 10/11/07, Dave Vanderploeg <dave.vanderploeg at gmail.com> wrote:
> I wouldn't say your heading down the wrong road but we've talked about doing
> this "free tech support for Linux" idea before and nothing ever
> materialized.
>
> I think what we need is a tech support group within the LoCo, complete with
> a lead who intends to do all the organization for this group. We need to
> find someone who want to step up and be in charge of this project. I think
> until we have a volunteer to run show, nothing will really get done.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> On 10/11/07, Darrin Goodman <darrin.goodman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I like the freeyourcomputer.whatever url.  Anyone else have
> > suggestions for a catchy, easy-to-remember URL that could be placed on
> > the shirt?  If people like this idea, I wouldn't mind pursuing it and
> > putting something nice together on the web (it's how I make my
> > living...).  It would be nice to tie it in as a sister site to the
> > CoLoCo site possibly.
> >
> > Do people feel that this idea is worth looking further at?  Am I
> > heading down the wrong road here, or is this idea heading in a
> > separate direction from the scope of CoLoCo?   I would love to hear
> > feedback from others; it seems as though this thread sort of died once
> > I threw my 2-cents into the mix.
> >
> > There is a company located in Fort Collins (can't recall their name at
> > the moment) that screen prints on really nice organic cotton shirts.
> > After speaking with them at the Sustainable Living Fair in September,
> > I recall that their prices seemed pretty reasonable.  I have been
> > thinking for some time now about creating some Ubuntu shirts; donating
> > the profits to Canonical would be one way to give back to the folks
> > who have done so much for those of us who very much appreciate both
> > Ubuntu as well as the community behind the project.  I like the idea
> > of advertising Ubuntu as well as advertising "computing freedom", and
> > it would be great to give people a tool to seek out more information.
> >
> > Do people feel that this idea is worth pursuing?
> >
> > - Darrin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/10/07, Brandan E. Lloyd < coloco-ubuntu at thelloyds.net> wrote:
> > > Good idea.  I checked register.com and the following domains are
> available:
> > > freeyourcomputer.net
> > > freeyourcomputer.org
> > > freeyourcomputer.info
> > >
> > > Brandan
> > >
> > > On 10/10/07, Darrin Goodman < darrin.goodman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I think that the shirt idea would be a great tool for advertising!
> > > >
> > > > However, it has been my experience that people who are new to
> > > > something don't always like to ask questions to a live person; it can
> > > > be somewhat intimidating, especially when talking about computers.
> > > > The Ubuntu shirt is a great idea as an advertising mechanism, but
> > > > along with the Ubuntu logo, it would be great to have a simple and
> > > > easy-to-remember URL listed on the shirt.  That way, when someone sees
> > > > the shirt and wants to learn more, they will hopefully go to the
> > > > website.  Plus, you might not always have a flier on hand and it would
> > > > be great to point folks to further resources.
> > > >
> > > > Function of the website:
> > > > - main page expresses in simple terms how the road to open source /
> > > > Linux / Ubuntu will benefit them
> > > > - provides information on how to get started
> > > > - links to valuable Ubuntu / general Linux resources, such as
> UbuntuScreencasts
> > > > - lists upcoming events, such as install-fests
> > > > - allows the user to express interest in having an install-fest take
> > > > place in their region (if there is enough interest, it might be worth
> > > > taking the time to set up an install-fest in more remote parts of the
> > > > state)
> > > >
> > > > A great way to help more than just one person is at an install-fest.
> > > > Time is rather valuable, and if you can help more than one person at a
> > > > time, that's time better spent.  For prospective Linux / Ubuntu
> > > > converts, I am not so sure if they have any idea that install-fests
> > > > take place or even what one is, so if we can get the word out...  The
> > > > shirt idea might really work well. Something like this:
> > > >
> > > > [Ubuntu Logo]
> > > > Free your computer!  Ask me how.
> > > > www.colorado-ubuntu.net [or some other easy to remember URL]
> > > >
> > > > I could be way off base here, but it seems like the shirt could a
> > > > simple tool that would point people to a resource of information -- a
> > > > simple website where they could find out about *why open source*, *why
> > > > Ubuntu* and *how to get started*.  The http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org
> > > > website is a great website and seems to be useful for people who are
> > > > already dialed into Ubuntu, but for the bare-bones beginner, I'm not
> > > > sure if it effectively addresses the "why" and "how" questions (or at
> > > > least I did not see anything like that on the site -- I mean no
> > > > disrespect to the maintainers of this website).
> > > >
> > > > There is already a lot of information out on the web, but if we are
> > > > looking to address Joe Colorado and plug CoLoCo, this might be a good
> > > > way to do it as well as consolidate information for the newcomers.
> > > > This is only my 2-cents worth.
> > > >
> > > > - Darrin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/10/07, Jim Hutchinson <jim at ubuntu-rocks.org > wrote:
> > > > > Based on the discussion, I propose a new shirt project.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone willing to be a billboard can order a shirt and wear it with
> > > > > pride anywhere they wish. We should order some brochures (maybe from
> > > > > system76) that explain Ubuntu and what we are willing to offer. I
> > > > > suggest we offer to introduce interested people to Ubuntu on our own
> > > > > equipment and then if they are interested helping them set up a dual
> > > > > boot. We should also be prepared to back up their files if they
> can't.
> > > > > Each person can decide for themselves how they want to approach each
> > > > > situation. The brochure should spell out the risks and make clear
> the
> > > > > need to backup. If you get any bites while fishing with your shirt
> you
> > > > > give them the brochure and a link to our website or mail list. They
> > > > > can ask questions and if they decide the way to try whoever was
> their
> > > > > point of contact can help them.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know if there are any legal issues to worry about. If
> someone
> > > > > asks you to install something and there is an error I don't know if
> > > > > they can try to sue you or not. I'd say probably not - especially if
> > > > > you outlined the risks. However, it might be worthwhile to have a
> > > > > short document that says you are a volunteer and helping at their
> > > > > request. It outlines the process and risks and they sign it. I'm
> sure
> > > > > it's minimal protection but if they try to sue you I think most
> judges
> > > > > would be inclined to say tough luck to the individual if you have
> > > > > their consent in writing.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll see if I can get something drafted. I have access to a lawyer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/7/07, Alex Comer <alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > > > > > done
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 10/7/07, David Overcash <funnylookinhat at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Yeah... we do provide that.  go ahead and change it.   : )
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Slightly off topic, but I was over at
> > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList and noticed
> that our
> > > > > > team does not have a YES under the column " Provides Local
> Support" as many
> > > > > > others do. I'm thinking thats not correct? Or am I misinterpreting
> that
> > > > > > table?
> > > > > > > > Alex
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Jim Hutchinson <jim at ubuntu-rocks.org > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Well, if there is interest I'll be Mr. Shirt Guy again.
> However, the
> > > > > > > > > company I used before doesn't do silk screening and I think
> that's
> > > > > > > > > what we'd want for the text on the back.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, David Overcash < funnylookinhat at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I would definitely be willing to do that.  Heck, it'd be a
> great
> > > > > > thing to
> > > > > > > > > > wear to our hopeful activities planned around the DNC next
> summer.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Jim Hutchinson <jim at ubuntu-rocks.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm not suggesting any particular version. I'm only
> asking would
> > > > > > > > > > > something like t-shirt advertising be something worth
> looking
> > > > > > into? If
> > > > > > > > > > > someone asks and you say I'll help you by installing
> Ubuntu
> > > > > > (probably
> > > > > > > > > > > dual boot) you will decide at that time what's best. My
> guess is
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > we would want to install the latest edition. LTS isn't
> overly
> > > > > > > > > > > important on the desktop. How many of us are still
> running dapper
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > even edgy. By the end of the month most of us will be on
> Gutsy.
> > > > > > Many
> > > > > > > > > > > already are.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What I'm asking is how willing would members be to walk
> around
> > > > > > town
> > > > > > > > > > > with big letters on your back saying "free computer
> help" or
> > > > > > similar?
> > > > > > > > > > > I think we would find a few willing converts from time
> to time.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Collins Richey < crichey at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Umm, maybe I'm off the mark here, but, was the point
> that
> > > > > > Collins
> > > > > > > > > > Richey was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > making:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. LTS (hence "free support") is not really included
> with
> > > > > > Gutsy, but
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > you'd really want to promote Gutsy cause its better
> than
> > > > > > 6.06LTS
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > or was it really that
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. memorex cds marked with sharpie seem too amateur
> and he'd
> > > > > > rather
> > > > > > > > > > > > > distribute officially printed cds since they are
> more
> > > > > > professional
> > > > > > > > > > visually
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, both. The LTS edition is a bit too dated for
> many
> > > > > > new/old
> > > > > > > > > > > > laptops, and yeah I love the professional quality
> covers for the
> > > > > > > > > > > > officially pressed disks.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > My laptop is pretty long in the tooth, but I couldn't
> get
> > > > > > wireless to
> > > > > > > > > > > > work well until Gutsy came along.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
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> > > > > > > > > > > >      If you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday
> and the
> > > > > > worries
> > > > > > > > > > > >      of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful
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