[CoLoCo] new t-shirt / help idea

Thu Oct 11 20:08:59 BST 2007

I wouldn't say your heading down the wrong road but we've talked about doing
this "free tech support for Linux" idea before and nothing ever
materialized.

I think what we need is a tech support group within the LoCo, complete with
a lead who intends to do all the organization for this group. We need to
find someone who want to step up and be in charge of this project. I think
until we have a volunteer to run show, nothing will really get done.

Dave.

On 10/11/07, Darrin Goodman <darrin.goodman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I like the freeyourcomputer.whatever url.  Anyone else have
> suggestions for a catchy, easy-to-remember URL that could be placed on
> the shirt?  If people like this idea, I wouldn't mind pursuing it and
> putting something nice together on the web (it's how I make my
> living...).  It would be nice to tie it in as a sister site to the
> CoLoCo site possibly.
>
> Do people feel that this idea is worth looking further at?  Am I
> heading down the wrong road here, or is this idea heading in a
> separate direction from the scope of CoLoCo?   I would love to hear
> feedback from others; it seems as though this thread sort of died once
> I threw my 2-cents into the mix.
>
> There is a company located in Fort Collins (can't recall their name at
> the moment) that screen prints on really nice organic cotton shirts.
> After speaking with them at the Sustainable Living Fair in September,
> I recall that their prices seemed pretty reasonable.  I have been
> thinking for some time now about creating some Ubuntu shirts; donating
> the profits to Canonical would be one way to give back to the folks
> who have done so much for those of us who very much appreciate both
> Ubuntu as well as the community behind the project.  I like the idea
> of advertising Ubuntu as well as advertising "computing freedom", and
> it would be great to give people a tool to seek out more information.
>
> Do people feel that this idea is worth pursuing?
>
> - Darrin
>
>
>
>
> On 10/10/07, Brandan E. Lloyd <coloco-ubuntu at thelloyds.net> wrote:
> > Good idea.  I checked register.com and the following domains are
> available:
> > freeyourcomputer.net
> > freeyourcomputer.org
> > freeyourcomputer.info
> >
> > Brandan
> >
> > On 10/10/07, Darrin Goodman <darrin.goodman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I think that the shirt idea would be a great tool for advertising!
> > >
> > > However, it has been my experience that people who are new to
> > > something don't always like to ask questions to a live person; it can
> > > be somewhat intimidating, especially when talking about computers.
> > > The Ubuntu shirt is a great idea as an advertising mechanism, but
> > > along with the Ubuntu logo, it would be great to have a simple and
> > > easy-to-remember URL listed on the shirt.  That way, when someone sees
> > > the shirt and wants to learn more, they will hopefully go to the
> > > website.  Plus, you might not always have a flier on hand and it would
> > > be great to point folks to further resources.
> > >
> > > Function of the website:
> > > - main page expresses in simple terms how the road to open source /
> > > Linux / Ubuntu will benefit them
> > > - provides information on how to get started
> > > - links to valuable Ubuntu / general Linux resources, such as
> UbuntuScreencasts
> > > - lists upcoming events, such as install-fests
> > > - allows the user to express interest in having an install-fest take
> > > place in their region (if there is enough interest, it might be worth
> > > taking the time to set up an install-fest in more remote parts of the
> > > state)
> > >
> > > A great way to help more than just one person is at an install-fest.
> > > Time is rather valuable, and if you can help more than one person at a
> > > time, that's time better spent.  For prospective Linux / Ubuntu
> > > converts, I am not so sure if they have any idea that install-fests
> > > take place or even what one is, so if we can get the word out...  The
> > > shirt idea might really work well. Something like this:
> > >
> > > [Ubuntu Logo]
> > > Free your computer!  Ask me how.
> > > www.colorado-ubuntu.net [or some other easy to remember URL]
> > >
> > > I could be way off base here, but it seems like the shirt could a
> > > simple tool that would point people to a resource of information -- a
> > > simple website where they could find out about *why open source*, *why
> > > Ubuntu* and *how to get started*.  The http://coloco.ubuntu-rocks.org
> > > website is a great website and seems to be useful for people who are
> > > already dialed into Ubuntu, but for the bare-bones beginner, I'm not
> > > sure if it effectively addresses the "why" and "how" questions (or at
> > > least I did not see anything like that on the site -- I mean no
> > > disrespect to the maintainers of this website).
> > >
> > > There is already a lot of information out on the web, but if we are
> > > looking to address Joe Colorado and plug CoLoCo, this might be a good
> > > way to do it as well as consolidate information for the newcomers.
> > > This is only my 2-cents worth.
> > >
> > > - Darrin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/10/07, Jim Hutchinson <jim at ubuntu-rocks.org> wrote:
> > > > Based on the discussion, I propose a new shirt project.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone willing to be a billboard can order a shirt and wear it with
> > > > pride anywhere they wish. We should order some brochures (maybe from
> > > > system76) that explain Ubuntu and what we are willing to offer. I
> > > > suggest we offer to introduce interested people to Ubuntu on our own
> > > > equipment and then if they are interested helping them set up a dual
> > > > boot. We should also be prepared to back up their files if they
> can't.
> > > > Each person can decide for themselves how they want to approach each
> > > > situation. The brochure should spell out the risks and make clear
> the
> > > > need to backup. If you get any bites while fishing with your shirt
> you
> > > > give them the brochure and a link to our website or mail list. They
> > > > can ask questions and if they decide the way to try whoever was
> their
> > > > point of contact can help them.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know if there are any legal issues to worry about. If
> someone
> > > > asks you to install something and there is an error I don't know if
> > > > they can try to sue you or not. I'd say probably not - especially if
> > > > you outlined the risks. However, it might be worthwhile to have a
> > > > short document that says you are a volunteer and helping at their
> > > > request. It outlines the process and risks and they sign it. I'm
> sure
> > > > it's minimal protection but if they try to sue you I think most
> judges
> > > > would be inclined to say tough luck to the individual if you have
> > > > their consent in writing.
> > > >
> > > > I'll see if I can get something drafted. I have access to a lawyer.
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > On 10/7/07, Alex Comer <alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > > > > done
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/7/07, David Overcash <funnylookinhat at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Yeah... we do provide that.  go ahead and change it.   : )
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 10/6/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Slightly off topic, but I was over at
> > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList and noticed that our
> > > > > team does not have a YES under the column " Provides Local
> Support" as many
> > > > > others do. I'm thinking thats not correct? Or am I misinterpreting
> that
> > > > > table?
> > > > > > > Alex
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Jim Hutchinson <jim at ubuntu-rocks.org > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Well, if there is interest I'll be Mr. Shirt Guy again.
> However, the
> > > > > > > > company I used before doesn't do silk screening and I think
> that's
> > > > > > > > what we'd want for the text on the back.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, David Overcash < funnylookinhat at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I would definitely be willing to do that.  Heck, it'd be a
> great
> > > > > thing to
> > > > > > > > > wear to our hopeful activities planned around the DNC next
> summer.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -David
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Jim Hutchinson <jim at ubuntu-rocks.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I'm not suggesting any particular version. I'm only
> asking would
> > > > > > > > > > something like t-shirt advertising be something worth
> looking
> > > > > into? If
> > > > > > > > > > someone asks and you say I'll help you by installing
> Ubuntu
> > > > > (probably
> > > > > > > > > > dual boot) you will decide at that time what's best. My
> guess is
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > we would want to install the latest edition. LTS isn't
> overly
> > > > > > > > > > important on the desktop. How many of us are still
> running dapper
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > even edgy. By the end of the month most of us will be on
> Gutsy.
> > > > > Many
> > > > > > > > > > already are.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What I'm asking is how willing would members be to walk
> around
> > > > > town
> > > > > > > > > > with big letters on your back saying "free computer
> help" or
> > > > > similar?
> > > > > > > > > > I think we would find a few willing converts from time
> to time.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Collins Richey < crichey at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On 10/6/07, Alex Comer < alex at platinumcode.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Umm, maybe I'm off the mark here, but, was the point
> that
> > > > > Collins
> > > > > > > > > Richey was
> > > > > > > > > > > > making:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. LTS (hence "free support") is not really included
> with
> > > > > Gutsy, but
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > you'd really want to promote Gutsy cause its better
> than
> > > > > 6.06LTS
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > or was it really that
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. memorex cds marked with sharpie seem too amateur
> and he'd
> > > > > rather
> > > > > > > > > > > > distribute officially printed cds since they are
> more
> > > > > professional
> > > > > > > > > visually
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Actually, both. The LTS edition is a bit too dated for
> many
> > > > > new/old
> > > > > > > > > > > laptops, and yeah I love the professional quality
> covers for the
> > > > > > > > > > > officially pressed disks.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > My laptop is pretty long in the tooth, but I couldn't
> get
> > > > > wireless to
> > > > > > > > > > > work well until Gutsy came along.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
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> > > > > > > > > > >      If you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday
> and the
> > > > > worries
> > > > > > > > > > >      of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful
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