psssssssst Eddie <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChicagoTeam/Projects">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChicagoTeam/Projects</a><br><br>ok but even a wiki isnt very coordinated. Lets just meet in real life to talk about it, and lets not get so picky yet, to be honest it really shouldn't matter what software we use to make an ad about Ubuntu, nor does it really matter if 'ubuntu is ready for the mainstream'. i say we dont pass up this golden opportunity, and if we have no use for it maybe some loco in colorado will...
<br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 2/6/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Eddie Martinez</b> <<a href="mailto:eddiemartinez@gmail.com">eddiemartinez@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Could we talk to the Ubuntu team in general about this idea? Marketing<br>team? Are there any Loco teams that can help us in resources, ideas,<br>etc?<br><br>Can someone PLEASE create a wiki page and what not? These are all
<br>great ideas, but they are going to get lost in the group chaos. I'm<br>not trying to advocate a facist regime or anything of that sort, we<br>operate pretty well as a guerilla movement. But even guerilla<br>movements have some structure. And no nixternal, this is not a
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<br>><br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 11:33:41 -0600<br>> From: Max Luebbe <<a href="mailto:max.luebbe@gmail.com">max.luebbe@gmail.com</a>><br>> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu Chicago] e-ntroduction
<br>> To: Patrick Green <<a href="mailto:patlgreen@gmail.com">patlgreen@gmail.com</a>><br>> Cc: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-us-chicago@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-us-chicago@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br>> Message-ID: <
<a href="mailto:45C76A75.7010201@gmail.com">45C76A75.7010201@gmail.com</a>><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br>><br>> I think that its some solace that deep down, the machines making these
<br>> ads and promos are running a BSD derivative and not some closed kernel POS.<br>><br>> In that light, I might be able to live with this compromise. : ]<br>><br>> -Max<br>><br>> Patrick Green wrote:
<br>> > I agree that we should be willing to own up to our warts when asked.<br>> ><br>> > I have been thinking about this. I see compromises made all over the<br>> > place. Linux magazines using Macs for templating. If Linspire or
<br>> > Novell places an ad in a magazine, it is safe to assume that ad is<br>> > templated into the magazine by the owners of the mag and theylikely<br>> > use a proprietary tool.<br>> ><br>> > Craig runs a mac shop. I can live with that for the promo video as
<br>> > long as it is available with zero region coding and mde availale in<br>> > free formats and playable without drm.<br>> ><br>> > Now, that said. We are looking at a 15 to 20 minute teaser piece.
<br>> > What if we tok the raw footge and continue our own project. We make<br>> > more footage and helpful videos. We create a video section of the<br>> > wiki and do our own editing. Yeah, it will be tough and painstakingly
<br>> > arduous, but we could make sure that the developers of whatever<br>> > project we use know our trials and report any bugs in the hopes that<br>> > the tool gets improved.<br>> ><br>> > On 2/5/07, *Chad Sutton* <
<a href="mailto:chadarius@gmail.com">chadarius@gmail.com</a><br>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:chadarius@gmail.com">chadarius@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Max Luebbe wrote:<br>> >> Just a thought.
<br>> >> Aren't we working against our own intentions though if we have to farm<br>> >> out the production work to a windows machine running premiere or mac box<br>> >> running final cut?
<br>> >><br>> >> I'd be nice to make a documentary about linux using linux to edit and<br>> >><br>> >> put the piece together, in the spirit of bug #1.<br>> >><br>> >> Also. I used to work for a cable station. Let me know if you need help
<br>> >> shooting or with post production, I'm pretty solid at both.<br>> >><br>> >> -Max<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> Patrick Green wrote:
<br>> >><br>> >>> Well, I showed him Revolution OS and he winced and said it was a good<br>> >>> student documentary. I've seen his work and have worked with him.<br>> >>> Not in film, but in theater. He and I and a guy in Woodstock are old
<br>> >>><br>> >>> theater hacks. Basically, his gig is he will get a chance to showcase<br>> >>> some young talent and give them something to put on a resume and he'll<br>
> >>> have his production name in the credits...so free pub. He helps alot<br>> >>><br>> >>> of young talent find work. He coaches for free, helps them with head<br>> >>> shots, and will help them get auditions for commercials and stage
<br>> >>> productions. He's got a good heart.<br>> >>><br>> >>> As far as the Chicago group. Yes, you guys are the foundation and<br>> >>><br>> >>> need to be featured. He usually does narrative voice overs, but I
<br>> >>> suspect he would use one or two actors as hosts or users needing to be<br>> >>> guided in the way of Linux.<br>> >>><br>> >>> I will be honest, I am relatively new to Ubuntu, though I've been
<br>> >>><br>> >>> using Linux exclusively since 2002. (more to come on that later).<br>> >>> Where we could use help in this project. I think some of you could be<br>> >>> proof readers of the script and ensure it is reflecting the proper
<br>> >>><br>> >>> spirit of Ubuntu and that it is accurate. He prefers to shoot on site<br>> >>> and he is used to paying for those sites, so we may have to get after<br>> >>> hours access to offices with cubicles and stuff like that. We would
<br>> >>><br>> >>> also need people who are not camera shy.<br>> >>><br>> >>> One thing he envisions is a green screen where a narrator...an<br>> >>> attractive woman is standing in the desktop much like a weather person
<br>> >>> giving a desktop tour.<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> Heck, if anyone here wants to meet with him and I over wings and beers<br>> >>> and feed him information, that would be cool.
<br>> >>><br>> >>> I had to leverage favors to get this done. He does this for me and I<br>> >>> get him some free assistance.<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> Heck, we could start a new thread on brainstorming ideas and I could
<br>> >>> pass it on to him. Professional production quality is important.<br>> >>> Soundtrack..even for a 15-20 minute piece is important to set the<br>> >>><br>> >>> tone. But really...we want it to be consumer oriented...something
<br>> >>> that would make the non Linux user think...hmmm...I want that.<br>> >>> So...what would be important to include? What is important about<br>> >>> Ubuntu and what is important about Ubuntu Chicago?
<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> BTW, I am the new kid here, so anyone who wants to contact me to<br>> >>> ensure I am on the up and up and blah blah blah, feel free to write me
<br>> >>> off the mail list and I will give you my contact info.<br>> >>><br>> >>> Craig (the production guy) and I are involved in a stage play right<br>> >>><br>> >>> now and will be committed until early April so we could get into
<br>> >>> earnest then. Basically it works this way.<br>> >>><br>> >>> Draw script...film for a day or two or three. Edit..re edit...edit<br>> >>> again...re edit the re edit....kill small farm animals...edit. ;)
<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> Patrick<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> On 2/2/07, * RJ Marsan* <<a href="mailto:rjmarsan@gmail.com">
rjmarsan@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rjmarsan@gmail.com">rjmarsan@gmail.com</a>><br>> >>><br>> >>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rjmarsan@gmail.com">rjmarsan@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:
<br>> >>><br>> >>> woot. seriously thats awesome.<br>> >>><br>> >>> On 2/2/07, *Rich Johnson* <<br>> >>> <a href="mailto:nixternal@ubuntu.com">
nixternal@ubuntu.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nixternal@ubuntu.com">nixternal@ubuntu.com</a>><br>> >>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nixternal@ubuntu.com">nixternal@ubuntu.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> >>><br>> >>> On Friday 02 February 2007, Patrick Green wrote:<br>> >>><br>> >>> | Well, on a lark I called an old friend of mine.<br>> >>> |
<br>> >>> | He lives in the same town I do and he owns a production<br>> >>> company. He<br>> >>> | writes, films, casts, and directs commercials and high end
<br>> >>><br>> >>> promotional<br>> >>> | DVD's (for time shares, real estate for the rich and<br>> >>> famous.) A 15 minute<br>> >>> | promotional film is usually in the neighborhood of 15-30
<br>> >>> grand. He is<br>> >>><br>> >>> | willing to do one for Ubuntu Chicago with his writing,<br>> >>> editing, and actors<br>> >>> | at no charge.
<br>> >>> |<br>> >>> | I will be sitting down with him soon to give him some info<br>> >>> on what linux<br>> >>><br>> >>> | is, what open source is, and what makes Ubuntu special.
<br>> >>> |<br>> >>> | What this would give us is a movie we could have streaming<br>> >>> on the wiki and<br>> >>> | even burn onto a DVD quality disk suited for you tv at home.
<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> OK, I caught my breath after reading this. This is amazing and<br>> >>> we (Ubuntu)<br>> >>> would be so greatfull for such an opportunity.
<br>> >>><br>> >>> I am available to help out as much as needed. I have no<br>> >>><br>> >>> problem using his own<br>> >>> actors, but would be interested to know if possible some of
<br>> >>> the "real" Ubuntu<br>> >>> users (some of the Chicago members) had a cameo appearance?<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> I can promise him that I will get his name out to about 8
<br>> >>> million people with<br>> >>> 1 single post. Those are the 8 million users who read my blog,<br>> >>> the Fridge,<br>> >>> and other sites as well. Plus this will also target those who
<br>> >>><br>> >>> aren't using<br>> >>> Ubuntu YET. This will get a Digg I am sure, and I can<br>> >>> guarantee a news spot<br>> >>> on Google as well. If you have more information about your
<br>> >>> friend and if he<br>> >>><br>> >>> is interested, I would love to promote him and his work. I<br>> >>> would like to see<br>> >>> some of his previous work, which I am sure is good.
<br>> >>><br>> >>> Patrick, we (Ubuntu community) really appreciate your recent<br>> >>><br>> >>> activity,<br>> >>> interest, and knowledge. I am an Executive Marketing and
<br>> >>> Business Management<br>> >>> major myself and enjoy this part of "work" more than any<br>> >>> other. It seems you<br>> >>>
<br>> >>> have the field experience that I am interested in and if ever<br>> >>> the chance came<br>> >>> about, I would love to pick your brain apart. Of course I will
<br>> >>> format the<br>> >>> Windows partition up there if there is one :)<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> Thanks again Patrick and if there is anything you need, please
<br>> >>> do not hesitate<br>> >>> to email me or the group.<br>> >>><br>> >>> --<br>> >>> Rich Johnson<br>> >>>
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<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >><br>> > I think that if at all possible it would be great to say the video<br>> > was created solely with Linux. My experience with video editing in
<br>> > Linux has been less than stellar however, but Its been a while<br>> > since I've tried it. I think I'll try and play around a bit with<br>> > it this week and see whether I still want to gouge my own eyes out
<br>> > with the current Linux video editing packages.<br>> ><br>> > The other side to this discussion is that for us to try and<br>> > refrain from looking like deranged free software lunatics to the
<br>> > non-Linux people we are trying to recruit. If Linux doesn't edit<br>> > video well then we should just own up to that just like we should<br>> > to anything lacking in Linux. What we can highlight is that over
<br>> > time all of these issues will be addressed with incredible free<br>> > and open source software.<br>> ><br>> > People just want their computers to do that they need as simply<br>
> > and as cheaply as possible. Its about value. I take pride in what<br>> > I can create in Linux or open source applications that are useful<br>> > and provide value and savings. If we can show that in the creation
<br>> > of the video itself then that is a huge plus.<br>> ><br>> > --<br>> > Later,<br>> > Chad Sutton<br>> > <a href="mailto:csutton@chadarius.com">csutton@chadarius.com
</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:csutton@chadarius.com">csutton@chadarius.com</a>><br>> > <a href="http://chadarius.com">http://chadarius.com</a><br>> > <a href="http://stephandchadsutton.com">http://stephandchadsutton.com
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</a><br>> ><br>> ><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> ------------------------------<br>><br>> Message: 2<br>> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:45:54 -0600<br>> From: Man-Chicken <<a href="mailto:manchicken@notsosoft.net">
manchicken@notsosoft.net</a>><br>> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu Chicago] Open Source in the workplace<br>> To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-us-chicago@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-us-chicago@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br>> Message-ID: <
<a href="mailto:200702051945.54259.manchicken@notsosoft.net">200702051945.54259.manchicken@notsosoft.net</a>><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>><br>> I agree that PDF Creator is a great tool. We need kopete for windows, I never
<br>> could get used to gaim (and no, I'm not volunteering).<br>><br>> I also think a great way to help PEOPLE (remember, these are people in need of<br>> functionality, many don't even care what they're running as long as they can
<br>> familiarize themselves quickly) is to get into the habit of distributing<br>> branded (I think the branding is important) discs to people.<br>><br>> The live CDs I've been handing out at work have moved 2 people over to using
<br>> GNU operating systems, exclusively, in their homes. The live CD shows<br>> people--with minimal risk--that they too can use Free Software.<br>><br>> I know those of you who know I'm an FSF zealot will giggle with this one, but
<br>> I think we should also have supplemental discs that will work with Flash<br>> plugins and free software implementations of non-free codecs. This is<br>> necessary functionality for many, and if we show them the way the world could
<br>> (and should) be where everybody gets freedom with functionality then<br>> grassroots freedom will be more possible.<br>><br>> I am consistently encouraged by the Open CD project (should be the<br>> FreedomCD? :-P ) and what it is doing to free users. This is good stuff.
<br>> Let's see if we could do more to get more distribution of branded Free<br>> software going around. I could throw some money into a pool to obtain such<br>> things if others are willing to participate.<br>
><br>> On Monday 05 February 2007 10:54, Patrick Green wrote:<br>> > Great letter. I recently bought Marcel Gagne's Moving to Open Source and<br>> > it is a great book and really gets to the point of useful foss software for
<br>> > windows users.<br>> ><br>> > On 2/5/07, Chad Sutton <<a href="mailto:chadarius@gmail.com">chadarius@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> > > Just wanted to let you all know that my plans to infect the world with
<br>> > > great free and open source software is continuing :).<br>> > ><br>> > > I've just started gathering support from my team and management to<br>> > > replace and rollout PDF Creator to every Windows PC in the corporation I
<br>> > > am a Desktop Architect for. If it goes through it will hit close to<br>> > > 200,000 PC's.<br>> > ><br>> > > As Ubuntu advocates, I think its important that we look at the "baby
<br>> > > steps" we can take to show people the value of open source software on<br>> > > any platform. By rolling out PDF Creator to every PC in our firm, we can<br>> > > give basic PDF creation functionality to all users just for the cost of
<br>> > > rolling it out to them. To do this with commercial software it would<br>> > > cost us close to $10-20 million. My other goal is to replace existing<br>> > > Acrobat installs. We have 1000's of users that use it for nothing else
<br>> > > that "printing" a few documents a month to a PDF. We can relaim their<br>> > > licenses and use them for people that actually need more advanced PDF<br>> > > printing, or just let the licenses die and stop paying maintenance and
<br>> > > support costs for them. That will probably save us real $$$ of $1-2<br>> > > million at least.<br>> > ><br>> > > What is my rambling point? Any free and open source software usage is a
<br>> > > step in the right direction. If I was Forrest Gump I'd say "Value is as<br>> > > value does"!<br>> > ><br>> > > --<br>> > > Later,<br>> > > Chad Sutton
<br>> > > <a href="mailto:csutton@chadarius.com">csutton@chadarius.com</a><br>> > > <a href="http://chadarius.com">http://chadarius.com</a><br>> > > <a href="http://stephandchadsutton.com">http://stephandchadsutton.com
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