[Ubuntu Chicago] Packaging Jam! Dec. 16th!

Wally Valters deepsky99 at gmail.com
Tue Dec 11 12:42:25 GMT 2007


I'll be there, but is it 10AM, noon, what?

I think training like this is best over time.  You cannot just show someone
everything at once and expect them to get it .


On Dec 10, 2007 2:17 PM, Eddie Martinez <eddiemartinez at gmail.com> wrote:

> Richard brings up a good point. Packaging takes time to learn. More than 1
> hours' worth. Here is my suggestion.  Everyone read  the manual's that
> Richard  sent out, and  drink lots of coffee. And depending on how many
> people show up on sunday, we can start at 10, or 12 or never. how about
> that?
>
> Also, if anyone is driving and can offer me a ride, please msg me offlist
> and we can discuss details about sunday. thanks!
>
> eddiemartinez AT gmail DOT com (although this should be obvious)
>
> -eddie m.
>
> On Dec 10, 2007 9:41 AM, Richard A. Johnson <nixternal at kubuntu.org> wrote:
>
> > On Monday 10 December 2007, Eddie Martinez wrote:
> > | heyall:
> > |
> > | Jim pointed out a good point. We won't actually be packaging for 6
> > hours.
> > | We will be meeting with CoDLUG and they run from 10am-4pm. The
> > conversation
> > | on packaging will most likely run from 12-3 or 2-4 or something
> > similar to
> > | this. However, I am waiting for Richard to get back to me on this.
> > Most of
> > | us are all real busy with finals and such. this does not mean that we
> > wont
> > | be ready for sunday however.
> >
> > Starting at 12 would be fine, but in 3 hours you might not learn much,
> > and
> > here is why:
> >
> > When doing any types of Debian packaging, there are multiple
> > environments in
> > which you have to package for, those environments are:
> >
> > 1) Merges from Debian
> > 2) New packages
> > 3) Fixing package bugs
> > 4) Rebuilding a package against an updated dependency
> >
> > Now that you have the environments covered, you have to now commit
> > either as a
> > MOTU or not as a MOTU, which bring up 2 new environments.
> >
> > NON-MOTU
> > ----------------
> > 1) dput to revu for new packages
> > 2) create debdiff/interdiff for merges, updates, and bugfixes
> >
> > MOTU
> > ---------
> > 1) Review NON-MOTU #1 and #2
> > 2) dput to Ubuntu
> >
> > 2 to 4 simply will not work, because we are usually out the door by 4pm.
> >
> > 12 to 3 will allow us to do possibly 1 new package and 1 or 2 merges.
> >
> > 10 to 4 will allow us to cover 1-4 up top, as well as 1-2 for NON-MOTU,
> > but I
> > will leave that up to the people. Packaging isn't something you are
> > going to
> > learn in a couple of hours, and doing it from 10 to 4 will not only
> > allow
> > myself and possibly Mario to run a couple of sessions, but it will also
> > allow
> > us to teach some fundamentals as well as answer questions. A 2 or 3 hour
> > session will not get it done, but I will leave that up to all of you, if
> > you
> > want a small session, come prepared to just eat what we feed you and
> > don't
> > plan on getting into it in depth. Also if you plan on a short session, I
> > would recommend that you read the following thouroughly so what we say
> > makes
> > at least a little bit of sense:
> >
> > 1) http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#policy
> > 2) http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#devref
> > 3) http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#maint-guide
> > 4) https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PackagingGuide
> > 5) https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PbuilderHowto
> >
> > And go over anything I didn't cover on this page:
> > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PackagingGuide/Lists/DocumentationResources
> >
> > For building new packages, you should probably familiarize yourself with
> > chroots, creating a good copyright file, and creating a good description
> > in
> > the debian/control file.
> >
> > --
> > Richard A. Johnson
> > nixternal at kubuntu.org
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> >
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