This is no way to promote Free (as in freedom) Software. Then again Shuttleworth seems to have lost the narrative thread of Free Software. When the project began he used to talk about promoting Free Software all the time. Now? Not at all. Ubuntu to you, Drew <div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 8, 2013 4:00 AM, <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-us-ca-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-us-ca-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Send Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:ubuntu-us-ca-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-us-ca-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:ubuntu-us-ca-owner@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-us-ca-owner@lists.ubuntu.com</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Ubuntu-us-ca digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Privacy, Trademark & Canonical (Grant Bowman) 2. Re: Privacy, Trademark & Canonical (Troy Ready) 3. Re: Privacy, Trademark & Canonical (Jono Bacon) 4. Re: Privacy, Trademark & Canonical (C S) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 16:50:48 -0800 From: Grant Bowman <<a href="mailto:grantbow@partimus.org">grantbow@partimus.org</a>> To: "<a href="mailto:ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Privacy, Trademark & Canonical Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:634b9b36-d886-4f6d-84d6-79fd584fe966@email.android.com">634b9b36-d886-4f6d-84d6-79fd584fe966@email.android.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" wow! RT @lcafiero RT @marciahofmann: Oh, Canonical. It's silly to use trademark law to try to silence a critic! Especially a critic who works at @EFF. <a href="https://t.co/25ipxoHxPY" target="_blank">https://t.co/25ipxoHxPY</a> I am not happy to read about this in this way. Thoughts? fyi, Grant -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I could agree that it's against "the spirit" of open source, but they've put a ton of time and money into promoting the brand of ubuntu and I don't think it's unreasonable for them to be wary of allowing very negative websites using that branding to go unanswered. On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Grant Bowman <<a href="mailto:grantbow@partimus.org">grantbow@partimus.org</a>> wrote: > wow! > > RT @lcafiero RT @marciahofmann: Oh, Canonical. It's silly to use trademark > law to try to silence a critic! Especially a critic who works at @EFF. > <a href="https://t.co/25ipxoHxPY" target="_blank">https://t.co/25ipxoHxPY</a> > > I am not happy to read about this in this way. Thoughts? > > fyi, > Grant > > -- > Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list > <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca</a> > > -- -Troy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <<a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/attachments/20131107/a8f05086/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/attachments/20131107/a8f05086/attachment-0001.html</a>> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 17:07:24 -0800 From: Jono Bacon <<a href="mailto:jono@ubuntu.com">jono@ubuntu.com</a>> To: Ubuntu US California <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Privacy, Trademark & Canonical Message-ID: <CALA+0ernSEUpqvELuORVk+z_wrYuTvV=Q3MzQznA==<a href="mailto:bAk2XVgg@mail.gmail.com">bAk2XVgg@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't think is trademark law to silence a critic. I think it is trademark law to protect a trademark. Was news to me though and I am checking into it. On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Troy Ready <<a href="mailto:troy@troyready.com">troy@troyready.com</a>> wrote: > Doesn't seem that bad to me. I could agree that it's against "the spirit" of > open source, but they've put a ton of time and money into promoting the > brand of ubuntu and I don't think it's unreasonable for them to be wary of > allowing very negative websites using that branding to go unanswered. > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Grant Bowman <<a href="mailto:grantbow@partimus.org">grantbow@partimus.org</a>> wrote: >> >> wow! >> >> RT @lcafiero RT @marciahofmann: Oh, Canonical. It's silly to use trademark >> law to try to silence a critic! Especially a critic who works at @EFF. >> <a href="https://t.co/25ipxoHxPY" target="_blank">https://t.co/25ipxoHxPY</a> >> >> I am not happy to read about this in this way. Thoughts? >> >> fyi, >> Grant >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list >> <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com</a> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca</a> >> > > > > -- > -Troy > > -- > Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list > <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca</a> > -- Jono Bacon Ubuntu Community Manager <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">www.ubuntu.com</a> / <a href="http://www.jonobacon.org" target="_blank">www.jonobacon.org</a> <a href="http://www.identi.ca/jonobacon" target="_blank">www.identi.ca/jonobacon</a> <a href="http://www.twitter.com/jonobacon" target="_blank">www.twitter.com/jonobacon</a> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 20:08:32 -0800 From: C S <<a href="mailto:cessanfrancisco@gmail.com">cessanfrancisco@gmail.com</a>> To: Ubuntu US California <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Privacy, Trademark & Canonical Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:527C63C0.1020307@gmail.com">527C63C0.1020307@gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I can see both sides of the coin on this one. However, I feel that Ubuntu should be more transparent about their search/privacy policy and be upfront with users about having the option to disable the search function, if so desired. On 11/07/2013 05:07 PM, Jono Bacon wrote: > I don't think is trademark law to silence a critic. I think it is > trademark law to protect a trademark. > > Was news to me though and I am checking into it. > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Troy Ready <<a href="mailto:troy@troyready.com">troy@troyready.com</a>> wrote: >> Doesn't seem that bad to me. I could agree that it's against "the spirit" of >> open source, but they've put a ton of time and money into promoting the >> brand of ubuntu and I don't think it's unreasonable for them to be wary of >> allowing very negative websites using that branding to go unanswered. >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Grant Bowman <<a href="mailto:grantbow@partimus.org">grantbow@partimus.org</a>> wrote: >>> wow! >>> >>> RT @lcafiero RT @marciahofmann: Oh, Canonical. It's silly to use trademark >>> law to try to silence a critic! Especially a critic who works at @EFF. >>> <a href="https://t.co/25ipxoHxPY" target="_blank">https://t.co/25ipxoHxPY</a> >>> >>> I am not happy to read about this in this way. Thoughts? >>> >>> fyi, >>> Grant >>> >>> -- >>> Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list >>> <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com</a> >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca</a> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -Troy >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list >> <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com</a> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca</a> >> > > ------------------------------ -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca</a> End of Ubuntu-us-ca Digest, Vol 78, Issue 5 ******************************************* </blockquote></div>