Hi Robert:<div><br></div><div>Good to hear from you. I actually had a thought that it is probably too inward looking because nobody really knows each other. Well, I know I don't really know anybody. I did take the time to read everyone's wiki that i could get a hold of. Here is mine: <a href="http://wiki.ubuntu.com/seidos">http://wiki.ubuntu.com/seidos</a>. Do you have one? </div>
<div><br></div><div>Quite frankly, I don't really know of anybody on the team that i can really work with on stuff. I'm a part of this team and i still kind of feel alone. Probably my fault, i don't know. </div>
<div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Robert Lewis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bob.l.lewis@gmail.com">bob.l.lewis@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
This group is to inward looking and therefor self serving in my view.<br>
I think we need to focus on the real common goals of helping others<br>
in our efforts to promote Linux within the community.<br>
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On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:30 AM, kdemarest <<a href="mailto:kdemarest@gmail.com">kdemarest@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I couldn't help but get the feeling that we might be taking this leadership<br>
> election a little too seriously. Maybe it would help to point out the<br>
> truism that a leader can't force anyone to do anything on our team. All<br>
> they can do is make suggestions. I mean, from the looks of things we're all<br>
> volunteers for goodness sakes. The best that a leader can do is remind us<br>
> why we're here, in case we spend too much time chasing our own tails. I<br>
> mean, if we refuse to do what the leader wants, who is going to force us?<br>
> The FOSS police?<br>
> We should probably be looking to ourselves for leaders, and not looking<br>
> outside ourselves. Oftentimes, we expect too much from our leaders, because<br>
> we expect so little from ourselves. For this we probably owe our leaders an<br>
> apology.<br>
><br>
> I still think the best leader is someone who is best at teaching. I know<br>
> for me, personally, I need to connect with knowledgeable individuals who can<br>
> *gracefully* show me what I don't know. I mean, let's just get the fact<br>
> that I'm an idiot out of the way, and let's just move forward to try and<br>
> reduce my idiocy. -_- On this same line of thought, I would suggest that<br>
> ego is detrimental to Us. Wanting to help with FOSS is great, but if you<br>
> don't have the knowledge, what good is the desire? And I don't mean to<br>
> project my own feelings of inadequacy on the team, but I really don't see<br>
> how the problems I see with Ubuntu, or GNU/Linux for that matter, are<br>
> presently going to be solved.<br>
> I talked to a friend yesterday. You know what she said? I mean, we all<br>
> probably already know this, but it is probably worth repeating. "I want<br>
> something that works and is cheap". How can I, in good faith, recommend<br>
> Ubuntu to someone when this is what they are looking for? What is the sound<br>
> bite? They are not interested in philosophical notions of right and wrong,<br>
> monopolies being bad, etc. They want it to be cheap, and to work. Enough<br>
> said, end of story. I mean, having their ear is fine. I suppose the best<br>
> that can be done, at present, is planting the seed that there is a more<br>
> ethical alternative, that may be cheaper and work better for them (but<br>
> probably not on the latter).<br>
> This all having been said, if I offended anybody with my candor, let's talk<br>
> about it. I am more than inclined to admit that I'm wrong with my opinions<br>
> based on my own limited personal experience.<br>
> Speaking of personal experience, I know that my own insistence on working on<br>
> my own projects is a major reason why I'm doing them alone. So if you have<br>
> a project you want help with, even if it's just you in front of your<br>
> computer "alone" on the Internet, by all means, let me know. Perhaps others<br>
> will feel the same way.<br>
> So, this all having been said, here are the projects I'm presently working<br>
> on everybody.<br>
> * Trying to figure out why top says that all but 52MB of my RAM is being<br>
> utilized at present of 2GB<br>
> * Trying to see if i can configure compiz standalone by following this<br>
> guide: <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompizStandalone" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompizStandalone</a><br>
> * Figuring out how I'm going to host my website<br>
> <a href="http://www.fictionalphilosophy.org" target="_blank">http://www.fictionalphilosophy.org</a><br>
> * Reading Python the Hard way (ug, someone give me some motivation on this<br>
> one!).<br>
> * Trying to figure out what all the processes in ps aux are for, and if any<br>
> can be eliminated.<br>
> seidos<br>
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