You say you want a revolution Well, you know We all want to change the world +0 I salute the process though. IMO anything is better than now. Something is broken. let me repeat DW- There have been a lot of questions about my vote. I figured that it would be more productive to reply with my reasons here. The issues in the group stem from a leadership style that Neal (Flannel) has. The issues have brought up a lot of controversy with the northern group. Grant (Grantbow) is one of the people that have brought the issues to light. It's a philosophy issue between how those in NorCal think and deal with problems vice those in SoCal. SoCal thinking has a way of saying "Problems will take care of themselves." The NorCal thinking is "Deal with the problem ASAP, fix it and move on." This is where you can break down the issue. My problem is that when/if a change of power takes place the issue of philosophy will not change. If someone from NorCal takes over then the issue still remains as those from SoCal will stir that we are spending too much time focused on the problems and not enough on what a LoCo should do. This is why I feel this course of action is like a very small band-aid to a larger problem. What should be done is a set of bylaws on how to deal with issues, leadership and how to conduct business. Changing leaders will not solve this issue. DW --------------------------------- Jono was right - it's best if I step away from political matters. Before I did that I put an agenda item, *Voting process* I'll shut up & see how it goes. Neal can show his leadership on this. He has his moments, but, IMO he can be a truly *great* leader if he just pays more attention. I thinks all this attention on his leadership skills has done just that. Lets hear from people that have NOT spoke. My ego has been set aside. Now is the time, the process has started. Of course we have some great people here. Lets make the process work great also :D "We chose the name Ubuntu for our distribution because we think it captures perfectly the spirit of the sharing and cooperation that is at the heart of the open source movement." It's a movement!