[Ubuntu-US-CA] Fwd: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) Final Beta released
Grant Bowman
grantbow at ubuntu.com
Sun Sep 29 16:12:53 UTC 2013
Hi Bob,
I am glad to hear you found a way around your issue. Not everyone is
so lucky to have different hardware to use. FYI, a quick google for
"launchpad intel 13.10" found some issues that are interrelated (some
resolved) between the intel driver, mesa and compiz with some
work-arounds you or others might be interested to try. I hope these
components "work like they are intended to work" in time for the
release of 13.10.
No distro can get around trying to help the upstream software become
more hardware compatible. To be fair, the work to make the software
more hardware compatible does take on a different nature when a distro
chooses to change it's role by taking on a new responsibility and
becoming the upstream for a replacement software project. This is
certainly the extremely rare exception to the norm. The new project
will need plenty of help from users, packagers, distros and developers
to test on new hardware platforms if it is to be successful like any
other upstream software project used to support hardware
compatibility.
My old Radeon HD 6320 in this Lenovo G575 laptop is thankfully working
well using the free kernel driver "radeon" and lxde with Precise. When
I installed the machine the open source driver "wasn't ready yet" and
had some issues but now the open driver works better for me,
especially with suspend/resume. I found that some of the following
debugging steps are not very time efficient or trivial to fully
comprehend. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume
Cheers,
Grant
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Robert Lewis <bob.l.lewis at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Grant,
>
> Thanks for your response. I have since located the problem. It has been
> with many many cuts of 13.10. The problem is known to the developers
> and is related to Intel Graphics chips. Apparently Intel hasn't recut the
> driver as yet for 13.10. If I bypass the internal graphics chip on the MBO
> and install an Nvidia card all these issues go away for me. It has also
> been confirmed by a friend in Vancouver, Washington.
>
> Hopefully, Intel will come through with a fixed driver before the release
> date.
>
> Cheers,
> Bob
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Grant Bowman <grantbow at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> Thanks for sharing your experience with this. I haven't encountered
>> this but my testing of 13.10 has been limited to using the synched iso
>> images booted from grub2 straight off the disk and I'm lucky enough to
>> use a pretty quick Internet connection. When a machine has a network
>> configured the dash uses the network when starting up. What kind of
>> network configuration does that machine use? What speed Internet? Does
>> the behavior change if you turn off networking completely and restart?
>>
>> Grant
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Robert Lewis <bob.l.lewis at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Anybody try Saucy as yet 13.10.
>> >
>> > I have testing it since alpha and at some point the dash became
>> > painfully slow to use. Takes minutes to stabilize and be useful.
>> >
>> > Also, shutting down the machine is quite slow.
>> >
>> > I just tried the daily build and found the problem still present.
>> >
>> > Who else is seeing this? Also, I am testing on a 32-bit machine and
>> > haven't
>> > as yet been able to try it on a 64-bit machine to see if the behavior is
>> > any
>> > different.
>> >
>> > Any comments?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Bob
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Grant Bowman <grantbow at ubuntu.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> For those that haven't subscribed to the -announce list yet here's the
>> >> most recent 13.10 Saucy Salamander announcement with a link to the
>> >> email list at the bottom. As it mentions the "final release expected
>> >> on October 17th, 2013." I am also curiously looking forward to reading
>> >> a blog post at markshuttleworth.com with an alliterating "t" theme
>> >> relating to the next 14.04 LTS release naming.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Grant
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> From: Adam Conrad <adconrad at ubuntu.com>
>> >> Date: Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:26 AM
>> >> Subject: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) Final Beta released
>> >> To: ubuntu-announce at lists.ubuntu.com
>> >> Cc: ubuntu-release at lists.ubuntu.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The Ubuntu team is pleased to announce the final beta release of Ubuntu
>> >> 13.10 Desktop, Server, Cloud, and Core products.
>> >>
>> >> Codenamed "Saucy Salamander", 13.10 continues Ubuntu's proud tradition
>> >> of integrating the latest and greatest open source technologies into a
>> >> high-quality, easy-to-use Linux distribution. The team has been hard
>> >> at
>> >> work through this cycle, introducing new features and fixing bugs.
>> >>
>> >> This beta release includes images from not only the Ubuntu Desktop,
>> >> Server, Cloud, and Core products, but also the Edubuntu, Kubuntu,
>> >> Lubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME, UbuntuKylin, Ubuntu Studio and Xubuntu flavours,
>> >> and the first official beta release of Ubuntu for phones.
>> >>
>> >> The beta images are known to be reasonably free of showstopper CD build
>> >> or installer bugs, while representing a very recent snapshot of 13.10
>> >> that should be representative of the features intended to ship with the
>> >> final release expected on October 17th, 2013.
>> >>
>> >> Ubuntu, Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu Core, Cloud Images:
>> >> Saucy Final Beta includes updated versions of most of our core set of
>> >> packages, including a current 3.11.1 kernel, a new upstart, and many
>> >> more.
>> >>
>> >> To upgrade to Ubuntu 13.10 Final Beta from Ubuntu 13.04, follow these
>> >> instructions:
>> >>
>> >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades
>> >>
>> >> The Ubuntu 13.10 Final Beta images can be downloaded at:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/download (Ubuntu and Ubuntu Server)
>> >>
>> >> Additional images can be found at the following links:
>> >>
>> >> http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/13.10/beta-2/ (Cloud Images)
>> >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/13.10/beta-2/ (Community
>> >> Supported)
>> >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/13.10/beta-2/ (Core)
>> >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/13.10/ (Netboot)
>> >>
>> >> The full release notes for Ubuntu 13.10 Final Beta can be found at:
>> >>
>> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes
>> >>
>> >> Ubuntu for phones:
>> >> Together with existing builds of Ubuntu for PCs and servers, with
>> >> this
>> >> milestone, Ubuntu images for phones are also included in a beta for
>> >> the first time. It is not recommended that casual users install
>> >> Ubuntu on their phone, but developers can find instructions for
>> >> installing the latest stable build of Ubuntu for phones at:
>> >>
>> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
>> >>
>> >> Edubuntu:
>> >> Edubuntu is a flavor of Ubuntu designed as a free education oriented
>> >> operating system for kids of all ages.
>> >>
>> >> The Final Beta images can be downloaded at:
>> >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/13.10/beta-2/
>> >>
>> >> More information on the Edubuntu Final Beta cand be found here:
>> >> http://www.edubuntu.org/news/13.10-beta2
>> >>
>> >> Kubuntu:
>> >> Kubuntu is the KDE based flavour of Ubuntu. It uses the Plasma
>> >> desktop
>> >> and includes a wide selection of tools from the KDE project.
>> >>
>> >> The Final Beta images can be downloaded at:
>> >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.10/beta-2/
>> >>
>> >> More information on Kubuntu Final Beta can be found here:
>> >> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SaucySalamander/Beta2/Kubuntu
>> >>
>> >> Lubuntu:
>> >> Lubuntu is a flavor of Ubuntu that targets to be lighter, less
>> >> resource hungry and more energy-efficient by using lightweight
>> >> applications and LXDE, The Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment,
>> >> as its default GUI.
>> >>
>> >> The Final Beta images can be downloaded at:
>> >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/13.10/beta-2/
>> >>
>> >> More information on Lubuntu Final Beta can be found here:
>> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Beta2/Lubuntu
>> >>
>> >> Ubuntu GNOME:
>> >> Ubuntu GNOME is a flavor of Ubuntu featuring the GNOME desktop
>> >> environment.
>> >>
>> >> The Final Beta images can be downloaded at:
>> >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/13.10/beta-2/
>> >>
>> >> More information on Ubuntu GNOME Final Beta can be found here:
>> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Beta2/UbuntuGNOME
>> >>
>> >> UbuntuKylin:
>> >> UbuntuKylin is a flavor of Ubuntu that is more suitable for Chinese
>> >> users.
>> >>
>> >> The Final Beta images can be downloaded at:
>> >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntukylin/releases/13.10/beta-2/
>> >>
>> >> More information on UbuntuKylin Final Beta can be found here:
>> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuKylin/1310-beta-2-ReleaseNote
>> >>
>> >> Ubuntu Studio:
>> >> Ubuntu Studio is a flavor of Ubuntu that provides a full range of
>> >> multimedia content creation applications for each key workflows:
>> >> audio, graphics, video, photography and publishing.
>> >>
>> >> The Final Beta images can be downloaded at:
>> >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/13.10/beta-2/
>> >>
>> >> More information on Ubuntu Studio Final Beta can be found here:
>> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Beta2/UbuntuStudio
>> >>
>> >> Xubuntu:
>> >> Xubuntu is a flavor of Ubuntu that comes with Xfce, which is a
>> >> stable,
>> >> light and configurable desktop environment.
>> >>
>> >> The Final Beta images can be downloaded at:
>> >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/13.10/beta-2/
>> >>
>> >> More information on Xubuntu Final Beta can be found here:
>> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Beta2/Xubuntu
>> >>
>> >> Regular daily images for Ubuntu can be found at:
>> >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com
>> >>
>> >> Ubuntu is a full-featured Linux distribution for clients, servers and
>> >> clouds, with a fast and easy installation and regular releases. A
>> >> tightly-integrated selection of excellent applications is included, and
>> >> an incredible variety of add-on software is just a few clicks away.
>> >>
>> >> Professional technical support is available from Canonical Limited and
>> >> hundreds of other companies around the world. For more information
>> >> about support, visit http://www.ubuntu.com/support
>> >>
>> >> If you would like to help shape Ubuntu, take a look at the list of ways
>> >> you can participate at: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
>> >>
>> >> Your comments, bug reports, patches and suggestions really help us to
>> >> improve this and future releases of Ubuntu. Instructions can be
>> >> found at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
>> >>
>> >> You can find out more about Ubuntu and about this beta release on our
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>> >> On behalf of the entire Ubuntu Release Team,
>> >> Adam Conrad
>> >>
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