[Ubuntu-US-CA] Privacy, Trademark & Canonical

Fri Nov 8 18:19:10 UTC 2013

Also just as a legal aside, Ubuntu is _actually_ a real word in a real
living language. As such no court in any country on God's Green Earth would
do more than merely laugh the case out as it has no merit.
I name a distro 'community' and trademark it (not likely but if I use a no
my English equivalent) does that mean I own it? Of course not.
I'm not saying this to be a jerk to Canonical as I have the deepest
respect; I'm saying this so people don't get unduly cross.
Trademark a graphic of your own design? Yes.
Trademark a living (and historical) word & concept? No.
On Nov 8, 2013 10:09 AM, "nuboon2age" <nuboon2age at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is no way to promote Free (as in freedom) Software. Then again
> Shuttleworth seems to have lost the narrative thread of Free Software. When
> the project began he used to talk about promoting Free Software all the
> time. Now? Not at all.
>
> Ubuntu to you,
>
> Drew
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>>    1.  Privacy, Trademark & Canonical (Grant Bowman)
>>    2. Re:  Privacy, Trademark & Canonical (Troy Ready)
>>    3. Re:  Privacy, Trademark & Canonical (Jono Bacon)
>>    4. Re:  Privacy, Trademark & Canonical (C S)
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>> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 16:50:48 -0800
>> From: Grant Bowman <grantbow at partimus.org>
>> To: "ubuntu-us-ca at lists.ubuntu.com" <ubuntu-us-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Privacy, Trademark & Canonical
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>> wow!
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>> RT @lcafiero RT @marciahofmann: Oh, Canonical. It's silly to use
>> trademark law to try to silence a critic! Especially a critic who works at
>> @EFF. https://t.co/25ipxoHxPY
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>> I am not happy to read about this in this way. Thoughts?
>>
>> fyi,
>> Grant
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>> From: Troy Ready <troy at troyready.com>
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>> Doesn't seem that bad to me. I could agree that it's against "the spirit"
>> of open source, but they've put a ton of time and money into promoting the
>> brand of ubuntu and I don't think it's unreasonable for them to be wary of
>> allowing very negative websites using that branding to go unanswered.
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>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Grant Bowman <grantbow at partimus.org>
>> wrote:
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>> > wow!
>> >
>> > RT @lcafiero RT @marciahofmann: Oh, Canonical. It's silly to use
>> trademark
>> > law to try to silence a critic! Especially a critic who works at @EFF.
>> > https://t.co/25ipxoHxPY
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>> > I am not happy to read about this in this way. Thoughts?
>> >
>> > fyi,
>> > Grant
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>> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 17:07:24 -0800
>> From: Jono Bacon <jono at ubuntu.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Privacy, Trademark & Canonical
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>> I don't think is trademark law to silence a critic. I think it is
>> trademark law to protect a trademark.
>>
>> Was news to me though and I am checking into it.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Troy Ready <troy at troyready.com> wrote:
>> > Doesn't seem that bad to me. I could agree that it's against "the
>> spirit" of
>> > open source, but they've put a ton of time and money into promoting the
>> > brand of ubuntu and I don't think it's unreasonable for them to be wary
>> of
>> > allowing very negative websites using that branding to go unanswered.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Grant Bowman <grantbow at partimus.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> wow!
>> >>
>> >> RT @lcafiero RT @marciahofmann: Oh, Canonical. It's silly to use
>> trademark
>> >> law to try to silence a critic! Especially a critic who works at @EFF.
>> >> https://t.co/25ipxoHxPY
>> >>
>> >> I am not happy to read about this in this way. Thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> fyi,
>> >> Grant
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>> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 20:08:32 -0800
>> From: C S <cessanfrancisco at gmail.com>
>> To: Ubuntu US California <ubuntu-us-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Privacy, Trademark & Canonical
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>> I can see both sides of the coin on this one.  However, I feel that
>> Ubuntu should be more transparent about their search/privacy policy and
>> be upfront with users about having the option to disable the search
>> function, if so desired.
>>
>>
>> On 11/07/2013 05:07 PM, Jono Bacon wrote:
>> > I don't think is trademark law to silence a critic. I think it is
>> > trademark law to protect a trademark.
>> >
>> > Was news to me though and I am checking into it.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Troy Ready <troy at troyready.com> wrote:
>> >> Doesn't seem that bad to me. I could agree that it's against "the
>> spirit" of
>> >> open source, but they've put a ton of time and money into promoting the
>> >> brand of ubuntu and I don't think it's unreasonable for them to be
>> wary of
>> >> allowing very negative websites using that branding to go unanswered.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Grant Bowman <grantbow at partimus.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>> wow!
>> >>>
>> >>> RT @lcafiero RT @marciahofmann: Oh, Canonical. It's silly to use
>> trademark
>> >>> law to try to silence a critic! Especially a critic who works at @EFF.
>> >>> https://t.co/25ipxoHxPY
>> >>>
>> >>> I am not happy to read about this in this way. Thoughts?
>> >>>
>> >>> fyi,
>> >>> Grant
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