[Ubuntu-US-CA] "The Ubuntu community cannot, and does not want to, prescribe which formal structure its local teams should use”
kdemarest at gmail.com
Wed Oct 6 16:19:52 UTC 2010
Good to hear from you. I actually had a thought that it is probably too
inward looking because nobody really knows each other. Well, I know I don't
really know anybody. I did take the time to read everyone's wiki that i
could get a hold of. Here is mine: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/seidos. Do you
Quite frankly, I don't really know of anybody on the team that i can really
work with on stuff. I'm a part of this team and i still kind of feel alone.
Probably my fault, i don't know.
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Robert Lewis <bob.l.lewis at gmail.com> wrote:
> This group is to inward looking and therefor self serving in my view.
> I think we need to focus on the real common goals of helping others
> in our efforts to promote Linux within the community.
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:30 AM, kdemarest <kdemarest at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I couldn't help but get the feeling that we might be taking this
> > election a little too seriously. Maybe it would help to point out the
> > truism that a leader can't force anyone to do anything on our team. All
> > they can do is make suggestions. I mean, from the looks of things we're
> > volunteers for goodness sakes. The best that a leader can do is remind
> > why we're here, in case we spend too much time chasing our own tails. I
> > mean, if we refuse to do what the leader wants, who is going to force us?
> > The FOSS police?
> > We should probably be looking to ourselves for leaders, and not looking
> > outside ourselves. Oftentimes, we expect too much from our leaders,
> > we expect so little from ourselves. For this we probably owe our leaders
> > apology.
> > I still think the best leader is someone who is best at teaching. I know
> > for me, personally, I need to connect with knowledgeable individuals who
> > *gracefully* show me what I don't know. I mean, let's just get the fact
> > that I'm an idiot out of the way, and let's just move forward to try and
> > reduce my idiocy. -_- On this same line of thought, I would suggest
> > ego is detrimental to Us. Wanting to help with FOSS is great, but if you
> > don't have the knowledge, what good is the desire? And I don't mean to
> > project my own feelings of inadequacy on the team, but I really don't see
> > how the problems I see with Ubuntu, or GNU/Linux for that matter, are
> > presently going to be solved.
> > I talked to a friend yesterday. You know what she said? I mean, we all
> > probably already know this, but it is probably worth repeating. "I want
> > something that works and is cheap". How can I, in good faith, recommend
> > Ubuntu to someone when this is what they are looking for? What is the
> > bite? They are not interested in philosophical notions of right and
> > monopolies being bad, etc. They want it to be cheap, and to work.
> > said, end of story. I mean, having their ear is fine. I suppose the
> > that can be done, at present, is planting the seed that there is a more
> > ethical alternative, that may be cheaper and work better for them (but
> > probably not on the latter).
> > This all having been said, if I offended anybody with my candor, let's
> > about it. I am more than inclined to admit that I'm wrong with my
> > based on my own limited personal experience.
> > Speaking of personal experience, I know that my own insistence on working
> > my own projects is a major reason why I'm doing them alone. So if you
> > a project you want help with, even if it's just you in front of your
> > computer "alone" on the Internet, by all means, let me know. Perhaps
> > will feel the same way.
> > So, this all having been said, here are the projects I'm presently
> > on everybody.
> > * Trying to figure out why top says that all but 52MB of my RAM is being
> > utilized at present of 2GB
> > * Trying to see if i can configure compiz standalone by following this
> > guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompizStandalone
> > * Figuring out how I'm going to host my website
> > http://www.fictionalphilosophy.org
> > * Reading Python the Hard way (ug, someone give me some motivation on
> > one!).
> > * Trying to figure out what all the processes in ps aux are for, and if
> > can be eliminated.
> > seidos
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