[Ubuntu-US-CA] the shirts

Larry Cafiero larry.cafiero at gmail.com
Fri Oct 16 00:15:56 UTC 2009


In an e-mail to this list earlier today I said, " . . . from time to time, I
say things I have to take back." While normally I find I have to take them
back a day or two later, today -- after an off-list discussions with Nathan
-- I've seem to have broken my own record.

I started the discussion about the shirts and a reference Nathan made that I
thought was sexist; despite the fact the statement was, for all intents and
purposes, an arguably innocuous one. During the course of a degenerating
discussion, however, things were said by me and others, and a tangent formed
which drew away from the original discussion at hand.

Not speaking for anyone other than me, I'd like to apologize to the list for
setting off this needless firestorm of argument that took away from the
original issue, and I'd like to apologize to Nathan for implying that he was
being unreasonable. Needless to say, I have always thought highly of, and
have always appreciated, Nathan's continuous efforts working with the
California LoCo.

[Oh, and sorry, Jack, for making your computer tell you "You Have Mail"
again, too.]

So mea culpa, all. Let's get some t-shirts.

Larry Cafiero
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