[Ubuntu-US-CA] Team organization and dispute resolution

[Grant Bowman]

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Abhejit Rajagopal <sirgogo at gmail.com> wrote:
> Not to reignite old fires, but did we decide how we are going to resolve
> issues in the future?

Not to my knowledge.  I have added it to the agenda for the sake of
getting some kind of status, otherwise it may get lost in the shuffle.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/09October04

> If not, perhaps in the next IRC this could be
> discussed and we could draft a resolution procedure, to be posted on the
> group page.
>
> -Abhejit Rajagopal

Our meetings certainly are getting full!  The IRC channel takes place
24x7.  Perhaps a "team of the willing" could be assigned to meet in
IRC at another time to dive into the details and gather feedback.  If
you have a proposal or suggestion, please don't hold back.

Cheers,

Grant Bowman
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam


> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Elizabeth Krumbach <lyz at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Robert Wall <robert at rww.name> wrote:
>> > The other common way of dealing with problems like this is to ask
>> > someone outside the LoCo to come in, look at the underlying problems,
>> > and work with both sides to figure things out. This has come up
>> > occasionally in the LoCo the past, but I don't think it's ever been
>> > initiated.
>>
>> I visit California frequently (every couple of months, I'm flying out
>> again tomorrow evening!) so my intentions for joining were not really
>> outside view and arbitration, but since joining I have ended up
>> talking quite a bit with the major parties involved. Given my
>> experience as a USTeams Mentor over the past couple years and having
>> arbitrated disputes within other US LoCo teams (up to and including
>> helping them restructure their teams) I'd be happy to help further if
>> you feel my expertise is valuable. There are also other mentors within
>> the USTeams project who can help if you want someone who is really
>> outside the whole discussion, but we won't jump in unless asked, so
>> please let me know if this is something you're interested in.
>>
>> Robert, I commend your bravery for bringing this out in the open.
>> While I do believe arguments and discussions like this in public can
>> be scary and very well might put a few people off into involvement
>> until this is resolved, it's vital to the future of the team that this
>> all get out in the open and it is resolved in public. If people are
>> able to hang on to the team through this difficult time, and I think
>> most will, they might even have more respect for everyone involved
>> because they'll see that the team worked hard to develop and use a
>> mechanism for dealing with really difficult problems. A proper
>> resolution should make the team stronger :)
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> --
>> Elizabeth Krumbach // Lyz // pleia2
>> http://www.princessleia.com