<div class="gmail_quote">> Hi > The scenario is as follow: > 1. You have permission to work as Admin on a Lan > 2. You do NOT have any documentation from the previous Admin > 3. You find a router / WiFi Router that is in use and therefore you can NOT reset it > 4.v This router is a "home" / consumer router like Netgear, Linksys, etc. So not an enterprise router > 5. You need to brows to the routers config web page to make some changes (you assume the default admin and password for the router) BUT you do NOT know > the IP address > 6. You know the router is NOT a DHCP server > > Now the question is HOW do you find the IP address of the router ??? </div> _______ - ____ - ______________ Thanx all for the response If it was the only router / WiFi then it would have been easy but there are multiple routers / WiFi access points AND a firewall router (this one is sorted) but the others I have to check and make sure there are no IP conflicts, change the PSK and so on and so on. I will look into Kismet, (know about wire shark), nmap, netstat... I also found: nagios - <a href="http://wiki.contribs.org/Nagios">http://wiki.contribs.org/Nagios</a> OCS - <a href="http://wiki.contribs.org/OCS_Inventory_Tools">http://wiki.contribs.org/OCS_Inventory_Tools</a> I know these come into the SME server project but do any of you know about these?? thanx