It might help if you said why the others failed you. I love amazon, and it should do most of your list (though I prefer to manage my library as files than let a tool do it for me) Anton - Anton Piatek email: <a href="mailto:anton@piatek.co.uk">anton@piatek.co.uk</a> blog/photos: http:// <a href="http://www.strangeparty.com">www.strangeparty.com</a> pgp: [74B1FA37] (http:// <a href="http://www.strangeparty.com/anton.asc">www.strangeparty.com/anton.asc</a>) No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. <div class="gmail_quote">On 4 Oct 2010 21:04, "Jacob Mansfield" <<a href="mailto:cyberjacob@gmail.com">cyberjacob@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > could anybody recommend a good music player/manager, I've just spent 4 hours > clearing up after banshee, amorak and rhythmbox and I'm not happy. it has to > be able to consolidate my music library using move, NOT COPY. use 'smart > play-lists' get album art. manage the content on my mp3 player based on what > I haven't herd recently. oh and did I mention I have 105GB of MP3s which I > also want to convert into ogg vorbis. any ideas about this? </div>