<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en"><title></title><head><meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><style type="text/css"> html, body {overflow-x: visible; } html { width:100%; height:100%;margin:0px; padding:0px; overflow-y: auto; overflow-x: auto; }body { font-size: 100.01%; font-family : Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color:transparent; overflow:show; background-image:none; margin:0px; padding:5px; }p { margin:0px; padding:0px; } body { font-size: 12px; font-family : Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; } p { margin: 0; padding: 0; } blockquote { padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px; } blockquote.quote { border-left: 1px solid #CCC; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; } .misspelled { background: transparent url(//images.gmx.net/images/outsource/application/mailclient/com/gb/resource_4.7.3.0/mailclient/widgets/basic/parts/maileditor/spellchecking_underline.gif) repeat-x scroll center bottom; } .correct {} .unknown {} .ignored {}</style></head><body id="bodyElement" style=""><basefont size="2" face="Verdana"><font size="1" face="Verdana"><title></title><basefont size="2" face="Verdana"><span></span><p><span></span><span style="font-size: 10px;"></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">Just a quick note, to say do not to underestimate how important it is to get a decent PSU for whatever PC you intend building. Most cheap PSU's are not worth the metal they</span> <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">are made from.</span> <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">They can be the cause of so many "crashing" or "lock up"related problems. They are also very inefficient and generally produce a lot less power than is stated on the box (sometimes as much as 50% less)</span><span></span></p><p><span></span><span style="font-size: 12px;"></span><br></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">My advice is to go with a decent unit from say Enermax/Hiper/Antec, with a rating of 80%+ on efficiency.</span></span><span></span></p><p><span></span><span style="font-size: 12px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"></span><br></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"></span><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px;"><br></span></p><font size="1" face="Verdana"><blockquote class="quote" style="font-size: 12px;" face="Verdana" type="cite">----- Original Message -----<br>From: Darren Mansell<br>Sent: 12/01/08 10:24 am<br>To: British Ubuntu Talk<br>Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice<br><br><div style="">>><br>> Yep, components are so cheap now, and eBuyer.com are offering free <br>> delivery when you spend over £50 (you have to choose the 5 working day <br>> delivery option but usually the order is delivered within 2 or 3 days <br>> anyway!).<br>> <br>> You'd possibly find though that newer motherboards generally now only <br>> have one IDE connector on board so you'd probably be worth picking up <br>> a Serial ATA hard disk and DVD-Writer unless you already want to <br>> connect existing drives to one IDE channel (but this will limit you to <br>> the two devices).<br>> <br>> I'd say you could pick up a Celeron Dual Core E1200 for about £35, a <br>> suitable motherboard for another £40 (I'd avoid Foxconn though), 1GB <br>> of DDR2 memory (Kingston memory is about £15 for a 1GB kit). A case <br>> will cost about £15 with a cheapo power supply although you may want <br>> to consider something a bit better (I would recommend the Trust power <br>> supply at £17).<br>> <br>> Here's what I'd go for if I was building a cheap system...<br>> <br>> Processor - http://tinyurl.com/5uzldg - £34.25<br>> Motherboard - http://tinyurl.com/63w69f - £37.94<br>> Memory - http://tinyurl.com/5626so - £14.68<br>> Power Supply - http://tinyurl.com/64kgl4 - £17.36<br>> Case - http://tinyurl.com/5ras3u - £12.71<br>> DVD writer - http://tinyurl.com/58e5zl - £13.69<br>> 250GB Hard Drive - http://tinyurl.com/49lree - £29.35 (turns out 250GB <br>> is about £5 more than an 80GB drive!)<br>> Extra SATA cable for DVD writer - http://tinyurl.com/6bdbo6 - £2.50<br>> <br>> So for under £165 you'll have pretty much a new PC which will keep you <br>> going for maybe another 8 years or so.<br>> <br>> You could probably get a dual core Athlon X2 system for around the <br>> same sort of price too if you'd rather go for an AMD based system over <br>> an Intel one.<br>> <br>> Rob<br>> <br><br>I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same money built<br>a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:<br><br>Decent Abit mainboard<br>AMD Athlon X2 4200+<br>2GB Corsair standard stuff<br>2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it rocks)<br>dual layer DVD-+RW<br>19" wide HannsG monitor<br>Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU<br><br>It was a grand total of about £300 but I had to make sure I got good<br>components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always liked Abit<br>motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my experience. They<br>used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.<br><br>The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.<br><br>-- <br>ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com<br>https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk<br>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/<br></div></blockquote></font></font><br><span id="editor_signature"><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Verdana"></font></span></body></html>