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<div><span class="gmail_quote">2007/9/27, Kris Douglas <<a href="mailto:webbox.uk@gmail.com">webbox.uk@gmail.com</a>>:</span>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 27/09/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername">Tony Arnold</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:tony.arnold@manchester.ac.uk" target="_blank">tony.arnold@manchester.ac.uk
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Kris,<br><br>On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 18:23 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote:<br>><br>> On 27/09/2007, Chris Jones <
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:chris.jones@canonical.com" target="_blank">chris.jones@canonical.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Hi<br>><br>> Kris Douglas wrote:<br>
> > No windows in the European union?<br>><br>> No it's just a very misguided suggestion that no PC should<br>> ship with an<br>> OS pre-installed. <br>> It just means more pain for users and no gain for anyone
<br>> else.<br>><br>> Cheers,<br>> --<br>> Chris Jones<br>> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:cmsj@canonical.com" target="_blank">
cmsj@canonical.com</a><br>> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.canonical.com/" target="_blank">www.canonical.com</a><br>><br>> --<br>> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br>> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
</a><br>> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/" target="_blank">https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/</a><br>> <br>> Agreed, but if you were in a situation where you needed a system that
<br>> could connect to a domain and run an application that was associated<br>> with keeping customers money safe, would you spend ages installing an <br>> operating system, or would you go get a machine that had something
<br>> installed and functioning correctly?<br><br>This argument works for any operating system! If I had a Linux<br>application doing a similar thing, I would want to buy client machines <br>that had Linux pre-installed and just worked.
<br><br>But this is a circular argument. One reason companies go for Microsoft<br>based applications is that they can buy pre-installed clients that just<br>work. It's much harder to do for Linux. Somehow, the circle needs to be
<br>broken!<br><br>Regards,<br>Tony.<br>--<br>Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester,<br>IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL.<br>T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039
<br>E: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:tony.arnold@manchester.ac.uk" target="_blank">tony.arnold@manchester.ac.uk</a>, H: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold" target="_blank">
http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold</a><br><br>--<br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk" target="_blank">
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk</a><br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/" target="_blank">https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ </a><br></blockquote>
</div><br></span></div>Good point, if pcworld stocked Linux systems...
<div><span class="e" id="q_11548d7e7bc5396c_2"><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Kris Douglas<br> Softdel Limited Hosting Services<br><br> Web: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.softdel.net/" target="_blank">
www.softdel.net </a><br> Mail: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:kris@softdel.net" target="_blank">kris@softdel.net</a> </span></div><br>--<br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com">
ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk</a>
<br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/" target="_blank">https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/</a><br><br></blockquote></div>
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<div> I got one word to say: Dell...</div>
<div>They are offering 3 models with Ubuntu by default...<br> </div>