FYI - All NTL equipment comes with Ethernet connectivity and most with USB also. <div>On 09/11/06, <a href="mailto:ubuntu-uk-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-uk-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-uk-request@lists.ubuntu.com"> ubuntu-uk-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Send ubuntu-uk mailing list submissions to        <a href="mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com </a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit        <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to        <a href="mailto:ubuntu-uk-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-uk-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> You can reach the person managing the list at        <a href="mailto:ubuntu-uk-owner@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-uk-owner@lists.ubuntu.com </a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-uk digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re:  NTL Cable installation (David Morley)   2. Re:  NTL Cable installation (Eamonn Sullivan)   3. Re:  NTL Cable installation (Eamonn Sullivan)   4. Re:  NTL Cable installation (tim matthews)   5.  un subscribe (richard merrix)   6. Re:  un subscribe (tim matthews)   7. Re:  NTL Cable installation (Dominic Forrest)   8.  Guardian letter published re more open source    information      :-) (alan c)   9. Re:  Guardian letter published re more open source      information :-) (Nik Butler) 10. Re:  Guardian letter published re more open source      information :-) (Greg Dash) 11. Re:  New screencast on installing updates (alan c) 12. Re:  New screencast on installing updates (alan c) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:39:30 +0000 From: "David Morley" <<a href="mailto:davmor2@gmail.com">davmor2@gmail.com</a> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] NTL Cable installation To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID:        <<a href="mailto:36feaa6c0611090839m792b1388te1a4060886c10001@mail.gmail.com"> 36feaa6c0611090839m792b1388te1a4060886c10001@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 09/11/06, Gary Kearley <<a href="mailto:gary@kearley.net">gary@kearley.net</a> > wrote: > Hi, > > I am moving very soon, into an area which has NTL Cable, now I've never > had Cable before and need to know what I am dealing with. > Cable is pretty good always on internet.  Everything should just work if not go into System/Admin/Network and enable it.  Ntl have an on off track record apparently but I can't comment as I'm on telewest. -- Seek That Thy Might Know ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:41:15 +0000 From: "Eamonn Sullivan" <<a href="mailto:eamonn.sullivan@gmail.com">eamonn.sullivan@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] NTL Cable installation To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID:        <<a href="mailto:e40e29dd0611090841g4bab34a0racf7955a688d07da@mail.gmail.com"> e40e29dd0611090841g4bab34a0racf7955a688d07da@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 11/9/06, Gary Kearley <<a href="mailto:gary@kearley.net">gary@kearley.net</a> > wrote: > Hi, > > I am moving very soon, into an area which has NTL Cable, now I've never > had Cable before and need to know what I am dealing with. I use Blueyonder, in the London area, which is part of Telewest (now owned also by NTL). I have not had any problems. You won't be able to reuse your current DSL modem. It'll be a cable modem. It shouldn't matter at all. As long as what comes out the *other* end is an ethernet cable, you just plug in and go. If you get something that plugs into your USB port and not your network card, that can be a little more troublesome. I have not had to do this, and will let someone else chime in. I bet, however, that you can tell NTL that your PC has a network card and they'll give you the right equipment. -Eamonn ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:44:46 +0000 From: "Eamonn Sullivan" < <a href="mailto:eamonn.sullivan@gmail.com">eamonn.sullivan@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] NTL Cable installation To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com </a>> Message-ID:        <<a href="mailto:e40e29dd0611090844j28b10df9ge414156279fa3d97@mail.gmail.com">e40e29dd0611090844j28b10df9ge414156279fa3d97@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 11/9/06, David Morley <<a href="mailto:davmor2@gmail.com">davmor2@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > On 09/11/06, Gary Kearley <<a href="mailto:gary@kearley.net">gary@kearley.net</a>> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am moving very soon, into an area which has NTL Cable, now I've never > > had Cable before and need to know what I am dealing with. > > > Cable is pretty good always on internet.  Everything should just work > if not go into System/Admin/Network and enable it.  Ntl have an on off > track record apparently but I can't comment as I'm on telewest. Telewest and NTL merged in 2004, if I remember correctly. It's all part of the telecom industry's plan to simply our lives by reducing choice... :-) -Eamonn ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:51:02 +0000 From: tim matthews < <a href="mailto:tim@tui.co.uk">tim@tui.co.uk</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] NTL Cable installation To: British Ubuntu Talk <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID: < <a href="mailto:45535C76.8000100@tui.co.uk">45535C76.8000100@tui.co.uk</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed don't cable connections in the UK just use dhcp? with homechoice, we used dhcp. but we had to ditch homechoice since the bandwidth was useless. makes life much easier than using pppoa. tim Gary Kearley wrote: > Hi, > > I am moving very soon, into an area which has NTL Cable, now I've never > had Cable before and need to know what I am dealing with. > > Would it be possible for someone who has NTL cable to describe, with > pictures if at all possible, the install and kit. > > IE I'm going to order the 3 for ?30 offer they have, so with the one > cable entering the building, what connections will NTL supply (ie for > telly and phone and Internet, and what do I need to buy to have a > broadband wifi router with Ethernet switch? > > Is there anyway to use my current dsl router? (bt voyager 2100) (I doubt > this) > > sorry for the basic and silly question, but I just don't know. > > Thanks > > Gary > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 17:36:46 +0000 From: richard merrix <<a href="mailto:merrix.motf@hotmail.co.uk">merrix.motf@hotmail.co.uk</a>> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] un subscribe To: <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com"> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:BAY124-W459E93A2332C4B1ED657D8B5F00@phx.gbl">BAY124-W459E93A2332C4B1ED657D8B5F00@phx.gbl</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" hi, i dont wanna do this n e more as i only want emails from my friends can i please unsubscibe _________________________________________________________________ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. <a href="http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d">http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d</a> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For WI-FI/Router you need a router whose upstream is Ethernet (to plug into the cable modem) - many are available from all the usual names. Dom Gary Kearley wrote: > Hi, > > I am moving very soon, into an area which has NTL Cable, now I've never > had Cable before and need to know what I am dealing with. > > Would it be possible for someone who has NTL cable to describe, with > pictures if at all possible, the install and kit. > > IE I'm going to order the 3 for ?30 offer they have, so with the one > cable entering the building, what connections will NTL supply (ie for > telly and phone and Internet, and what do I need to buy to have a > broadband wifi router with Ethernet switch? > > Is there anyway to use my current dsl router? (bt voyager 2100) (I doubt > this) > > sorry for the basic and silly question, but I just don't know. > > Thanks > > Gary > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:48:55 +0000 From: alan c <<a href="mailto:aeclist@candt.waitrose.com">aeclist@candt.waitrose.com</a>> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Guardian letter published re more open source        information :-) To: British Ubuntu Talk <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:45537817.6010505@candt.waitrose.com">45537817.6010505@candt.waitrose.com</a> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I am joyful to say that my letter to the Guardian Technology section asking for more about Open Source has been published! Today Open Source, tomorrow, Ubuntu. 9th Nov 2006 <a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/archives/2006/11/09/this_weeks_letters_in_full.html#more">http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/archives/2006/11/09/this_weeks_letters_in_full.html#more </a> 'GOOGLE?S OPEN SOURCE MAN' The paper version is abridged, but reads well. :-) -- alan cocks Linux registered user #360648 ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:00:07 +0000 From: Nik Butler <<a href="mailto:nik@butlershouse.co.uk">nik@butlershouse.co.uk</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guardian letter published re more open source        information :-) To: British Ubuntu Talk < <a href="mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:45537AB7.3010907@butlershouse.co.uk">45537AB7.3010907@butlershouse.co.uk</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed alan c wrote: > The paper version is abridged, but reads well. > :-) > Fabboooooo! Speaking as a times reader Id like to add that as  a Goal to our plan. We should be contacting more of the press and the Beeb and telling them more about open source events and activities. Cheers Nik ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:01:21 +0000 From: "Greg Dash" < <a href="mailto:greg.dash1@gmail.com">greg.dash1@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guardian letter published re more open source        information :-) To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com"> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID:        <<a href="mailto:7edc14ef0611091101u38b826c4j396ade33a5223e3d@mail.gmail.com">7edc14ef0611091101u38b826c4j396ade33a5223e3d@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" thats awesome that your letter got published, you make a good point, Open Source is't just a hobby thing anymore, nor was it 10 years ago, but hey, everyone has lag! :P On 09/11/06, alan c <<a href="mailto:aeclist@candt.waitrose.com"> aeclist@candt.waitrose.com</a>> wrote: > > I am joyful to say that my letter to the Guardian Technology section > asking for more about Open Source has been published! Today Open > Source, tomorrow, Ubuntu. > > 9th Nov 2006 > > <a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/archives/2006/11/09/this_weeks_letters_in_full.html#more">http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/archives/2006/11/09/this_weeks_letters_in_full.html#more </a> > 'GOOGLE'S OPEN SOURCE MAN' > > The paper version is abridged, but reads well. > :-) > -- > alan cocks > Linux registered user #360648 > > -- > <a href="mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com"> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk</a> > <a href="https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/">https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ </a> > -- Greg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would appreciate having the files available to burn onto a CD to offer at Computer fairs  etc etc when also offering K/Ubuntu CDs. A how-to video/s such as these will jump start more than a newbies knowledge. It adds a very powerful credibility to what they may hopefully already have heard - it is not a distro from Mars, it is for human beings. -- alan cocks Linux registered user #360648 ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:04:37 +0000 From: alan c <<a href="mailto:aeclist@candt.waitrose.com"> aeclist@candt.waitrose.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates To: Alan Pope <<a href="mailto:alan@popey.com">alan@popey.com</a>>,         British Ubuntu Talk        <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com"> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:455389D5.4020905@candt.waitrose.com">455389D5.4020905@candt.waitrose.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Alan Pope wrote: > On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 12:37:25PM +0000, Jonathan Roberts wrote: >> Hey, >> >> I've just watched the screen cast and thought it was really good! Don't >> really think you need to make any changes to the splash screen, although >> with the idea of pretty as a feature being thrown around by Mark >> Shuttleworth and the like maybe it would be a nice extra (although I >> have zero artistic talent myself!). >> > > Ok, that's good to hear. > >> I know I've said this about the screencasts on this list before, but I >> really think any one making them should post them to >> <a href="http://ubuntuclips.org/"> http://ubuntuclips.org/</a> as well: otherwise I worry we'll be duplicating >> efforts. Just a thought. >> > > I have mixed feelings about this. > > Firstly ubuntuclips state that the videos submitted to them should *not* be full resolution > videos, but should be clips of part of the screen. Part of this is for readability and > partly for size of download. I am of the opinon that screencasts should (where possible) > show full screen video that allows the viewer to see the entire desktop. Clipping and > cropping chunks off means they don't see the full deal of what's going on, and the video > maker has to keep moving popup windows and dialogs around to get them in the viewing port. > > I also feel that there should be some consistency between the videos, that they should have > boilerplates at the start and end so that you know what video is what from the preview > dialog, and the video gets a branding. very much, yes, it is newbies who are looking, with windows shutters on the eyelids. When anxious they will try to follow exact instructions. I know, I used to either click yes to everything (note 1), or when push came to shove, try to be blindly exact. Note 1: Linux cured me of this habit...... -- alan cocks Linux registered user #360648 ------------------------------ -- ubuntu-uk mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk</a> End of ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 36 ***************************************** </blockquote></div>