[ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 116, Issue 1

Roger Leyland girolez at gmail.com
Thu Dec 4 22:03:30 UTC 2014


Hi

Firstly sorry if this has top posted - not sure how to bottom part with
Gmail on my phone.

My oldest in use pc is an Acer Aspire 1351 from 2003. Use daily in my
commercial (small) laundry for scanning forms printing forms and generating
invoices.  It runs Bodhi linux 2.4.0 (ubuntu after 8.04 was to heavy for it)

Regards

Roger Leyland
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>    1.  UK Team Reboot (Alan Pope)
>    2.  How old is your computer? (Barry Titterton)
>    3. Re:  How old is your computer? (Simon Greenwood)
>    4. Re:  How old is your computer? (Alan Jenkins)
>    5. Re:  How old is your computer? (Liam Proven)
>    6. Re:  UK Team Reboot (Bruno Girin)
>    7. Re:  How old is your computer? (Paul Sutton)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 13:57:19 +0000
> From: Alan Pope <alan at popey.com>
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] UK Team Reboot
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> Hi all,
>
> I wanted to kick off a thread about "rebooting" the team. We have
> discussions on the list, an active IRC channel, regular beer-related
> celebrations and a podcast in its 7th year, but not a lot else (unless
> I'm mistaken?) done as team effort.
>
> So I wanted to start an open discussion here based on my assertion
> that the team (such as it is) is currently somewhat moribund, and
> needs a boot up the arse for 2015.
>
> The questions I have are:-
>
> a) Do you agree?
> b) What shall we do about it?
>
> In my mind I'd like to see us doing more in the way of advocacy, event
> organising/attending, code jams, support and so on. We could all do
> this individually or we could do it co-ordinated as a team. I'd prefer
> the latter.
>
> Discuss. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 15:26:32 +0000
> From: Barry Titterton <titterton.barry at gmail.com>
> To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com, lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] How old is your computer?
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> Hi All,
>
> How old is the oldest computer that you have in regular use?
>
> I was prompted to ask this question by a comment that I over heard while
> doing some Linux advocacy at my local community centre. They run
> beginners computer courses (Windows only) so I popped along to see if
> anyone would be interested in Linux and FOSS. There was a conversation
> which included the statement "If your machine is 3 to 4 years old it
> must be getting worn out, so you need to think about getting a new one".
> This got me thinking about my own machines and I realised that my main
> desktop PC (Pentium D 3.2GHz), that I use every day, will be 9 years old
> in February, and it is still capable of running Ubuntu 14.04 very well.
>
> So how old is your machine?.
>
> Regards,
>
> Barry T
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 15:43:10 +0000
> From: Simon Greenwood <sfgreenwood at gmail.com>
> To: UK Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] How old is your computer?
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> On 4 December 2014 at 15:26, Barry Titterton <titterton.barry at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > How old is the oldest computer that you have in regular use?
> >
> > I was prompted to ask this question by a comment that I over heard while
> > doing some Linux advocacy at my local community centre. They run
> > beginners computer courses (Windows only) so I popped along to see if
> > anyone would be interested in Linux and FOSS. There was a conversation
> > which included the statement "If your machine is 3 to 4 years old it
> > must be getting worn out, so you need to think about getting a new one".
> > This got me thinking about my own machines and I realised that my main
> > desktop PC (Pentium D 3.2GHz), that I use every day, will be 9 years old
> > in February, and it is still capable of running Ubuntu 14.04 very well.
> >
> > So how old is your machine?.
> >
> >
> Being a geek I tend to cycle hardware every 3-4 years at most, so my
oldest
> computer in use is a Lenovo Edge 11 that I bought about three and half
> years ago. It's running Xubuntu 14.04 happily.
>
> I need to do something with my wife's laptop-before-last which I think is
> 10-12 years old and very underspecced. I might see if Lubuntu will play
> with it.
>
> In my day job I did come across a server a few years ago at a mobile phone
> company that had an uptime approaching 12 years ,which was maintained by
> the sysadmins as a badge of honour. I like to hope that it's still
running.
>
> s/
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> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 15:43:41 +0000
> From: Alan Jenkins <alan.james.jenkins at gmail.com>
> To: UK Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Cc: lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] How old is your computer?
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> For me its a 3 year old computer. The older one I had (6 years old), died
> not too long ago due to hardware failure. Neither of those computers would
> have ever struggled running Linux or any non heavy gaming / rendering
> software.
>
> Before my fathers computer's hard disk died that was also about 8 years
old
> and running Linux as he found it easier to use than Windows (he was never
> taught to use a computer so with him starting with a blank slate he
> actually found Gnome 2 easier to use than Windows). On top of that, before
> he was using Windows and I could not keep that free of Malware that he was
> routinely downloading by accident. The computer was not running fast as
> such but was running faster than it was under Windows with one exception.
> The graphics card ran slower and rendering of web pages took longer. It
was
> an old PCI card from some obscure manufacturer (don't remember what it
was).
>
> On 4 December 2014 at 15:26, Barry Titterton <titterton.barry at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > How old is the oldest computer that you have in regular use?
> >
> > I was prompted to ask this question by a comment that I over heard while
> > doing some Linux advocacy at my local community centre. They run
> > beginners computer courses (Windows only) so I popped along to see if
> > anyone would be interested in Linux and FOSS. There was a conversation
> > which included the statement "If your machine is 3 to 4 years old it
> > must be getting worn out, so you need to think about getting a new one".
> > This got me thinking about my own machines and I realised that my main
> > desktop PC (Pentium D 3.2GHz), that I use every day, will be 9 years old
> > in February, and it is still capable of running Ubuntu 14.04 very well.
> >
> > So how old is your machine?.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Barry T
> >
> > --
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> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 17:05:30 +0100
> From: Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com>
> To: UK Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] How old is your computer?
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> On 4 December 2014 at 16:43, Alan Jenkins <alan.james.jenkins at gmail.com>
wrote:
> > For me its a 3 year old computer. The older one I had (6 years old),
died
> > not too long ago due to hardware failure. Neither of those computers
would
> > have ever struggled running Linux or any non heavy gaming / rendering
> > software.
> >
> > Before my fathers computer's hard disk died that was also about 8 years
old
> > and running Linux as he found it easier to use than Windows (he was
never
> > taught to use a computer so with him starting with a blank slate he
actually
> > found Gnome 2 easier to use than Windows). On top of that, before he was
> > using Windows and I could not keep that free of Malware that he was
> > routinely downloading by accident. The computer was not running fast as
such
> > but was running faster than it was under Windows with one exception. The
> > graphics card ran slower and rendering of web pages took longer. It was
an
> > old PCI card from some obscure manufacturer (don't remember what it
was).
>
>
> Blimey. I don't think I own one that young!
>
> My main machines are a 2007 Toshiba Satellite Pro and a 2nd-hand IBM
> Thinkpad X201S. Both are Core 2 Duo machines and around the same age
> -- the Thinkpad might be a bit younger.
>
>
> --
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> Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven
> MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven
> Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) ? +420 702 829 053 (?R)
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 18:38:40 +0000
> From: Bruno Girin <brunogirin at gmail.com>
> To: UK Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Team Reboot
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> On 4 December 2014 at 13:57, Alan Pope <alan at popey.com> wrote:
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> >
> > a) Do you agree?
> >
>
> Yes.
>
>
>
> > b) What shall we do about it?
> >
>
> Now, that's the difficult question :-) Whatever we do, we need to make
sure
> it involves places other than London. We've had a tendency in the past to
> do stuff in London because that's where several of us are but we should
> make an effort to include the rest of the UK.
>
>
>
> >
> > In my mind I'd like to see us doing more in the way of advocacy, event
> > organising/attending, code jams, support and so on. We could all do
> > this individually or we could do it co-ordinated as a team. I'd prefer
> > the latter.
> >
>
> I agree, it would be better to coordinate as a team. That said, it should
> also be possible for someone to do something on their own in their local
> community, while relying on the whole team for support.
>
> One aspect of this would be to document what we do in a wiki so for
> example, including what worked and what didn't so if we do something
> successful in London for instance, someone in Manchester could just go to
> the wiki to get ideas and learn about the pitfalls to avoid.
>
> I've just been reminded that I'm supposed to go over to the meeting room
> for Christmas drinks so I'll follow up with ideas in another email :-)
>
> Cheerio!
>
> Bruno
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> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 19:10:53 +0000
> From: Paul Sutton <zleap at zleap.net>
> To: UK Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On 04/12/14 15:26, Barry Titterton wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > How old is the oldest computer that you have in regular use?
> >
> > I was prompted to ask this question by a comment that I over heard
> > while doing some Linux advocacy at my local community centre. They
> > run beginners computer courses (Windows only) so I popped along to
> > see if anyone would be interested in Linux and FOSS. There was a
> > conversation which included the statement "If your machine is 3 to
> > 4 years old it must be getting worn out, so you need to think about
> > getting a new one". This got me thinking about my own machines and
> > I realised that my main desktop PC (Pentium D 3.2GHz), that I use
> > every day, will be 9 years old in February, and it is still capable
> > of running Ubuntu 14.04 very well.
> >
> > So how old is your machine?.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Barry T
> >
>
> I have a duron 1600 with 1gb ram it seems to run debian 7 nicely.  It
> was running an old version 12.04 or before of xubuntu however the
> install was somewhat dodgy so I can't comment on the performance,
> Suffice to say it is not a hardware issue it is a software issue as
> replacing xubuntu with debian its back to working fine.
>
> One option for these old computers is ToriOS.  Please see
> www.toriOS.org.  ToriOS is based on ubuntu1 12.04 but also importantly
> for these systems it retains non PAE support.
>
> My desktop must be getting on for 3 -4 years old.  This runs xubuntu
> 14.04 really well.
>
> I think the 3 -4 years old thing is marketing tripe,  I get the
> impression from people like PC world they think that a 3 year old PC
> is old and needs a nice new one ??? for them, of course running
> Windows for 3 years, with no re-install does seem to slow your
> computer to a crawl.
>
> Paul
>
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> Documentation lead @ ToriOS http://www.torios.org
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