[ubuntu-uk] The problem with Bug #1

Phill Whiteside PhillW at Ubuntu.com
Thu May 9 23:33:38 UTC 2013

XP is going to be dead, no security updates. Lubuntu has realised this, we
are asking xubutu and kubuntu to come on board. The initial one was just
lubuntu, it is now open to all the flavours to get on board with this, For
schools / colleges? Use Edubutnu, or is there no one in UK who knows of it?

Edubuntu can only be improved if people actually help out on both the
direction it heads but also people who are in education who can suggest
things that need / want to be added.


P.S. the UK government has said that teaching IT means more than learning
how to use micro-soft applicatians.... I am not holding my breath :)

On 10 May 2013 00:09, John Oliver <jp.oliver at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> I suppose it depends what's available on the platform. Looking at schools
> and colleges on the UK the vast majority run Windows XP or 7. That's not
> necessarily because of the technical staff who are often perfectly capable
> of using and managing a GNU/Linux system or set of systems, not is it
> saying that Windows, Mac or Linux (etc) has one better than the other. I've
> been using Ubuntu and other distros for about 3 & 1/2 years now, but I also
> realise that Windows 7 as a platform in schools and in the enterprise is
> pretty good at what it does, and I have grown to like Windows 7 a lot since
> its release in 2009. But, seen as schools and colleges have been using
> Windows since the 90s, it is simply easier to keep with it. Let us not
> forget one of the main reasons education likes to stick with Windows - MS
> Office, which is I find much more reliable and user friendly than
> alternatives such as LibreOffice or KOffice. If you're in education trying
> to teach children to word process it sim
>  ply isn't faesable to try to explain the difference between proprietary
> and open-source software etc and then to get them to make a choice. Such a
> thing would be a massive logistical operation too - demonstrations on a
> projector screen would be wrong for everyone who chose the other system,
> and would have to be done again.
> So, basically, the point I am trying to make is that until Ubuntu (or any
> alternative) can offer something that will really persuade school/college
> technical staff to switch, then they won't. Why bother messing on making
> the switch to something if it's just as good and will take a lot of
> valuable time away from busy technical staff? It's simply nonsensical as
> far as I can see, speaking from my own experience.
> Please feel free to criticise me :)
> Regards,
> John Oliver
> On 9 May 2013, at 21:47, SuperEngineer <boosys at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The problem with not resolving bug #1 stares me in the face. That being
> > the fact that EEC, UsA? etc are prepared to force Microsoft to offer
> > more than their own browser... but are not prepared to take on the real
> > monopoly.  That being the fact that manufactures should offer a dual
> > boot at purchase... the only problem being the wording:
> >
> > Dear purchaser, please choose:
> > - paying extra on your purchase for Windows
> > - using a free, legal & simple system that is better
> >
> >
> > Hmmm
> >
> > Well  - that's my sensible thinking done for this year  ;)
> > bfn
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> > Bill B. [SuperEngineer]
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