[ubuntu-uk] Has anybody seen this and what do you think......

[Peter Maddison]

Good idea, I'll have to have a look on have a look on my local Council's website as I remember seeing a list of all the FOI's that have been requested. If the one I need is not there, I'll have to put my own FOI in.
Pete



> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 08:31:17 +0100
> From: jon at sprig.gs
> To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Has anybody seen this and what do you think......
> 
> Most, (if not all) councils outsource their IT to a 3rd party. This
> outsourcing will be very fluffy around what technologies they expect
> to be provided, but nearly all will state some kind of Technology
> Refresh after X years.
> 
> The Service Integrator (SI) I work for wouldn't even consider making
> Linux part of the front-end refresh, so this will never be offered to
> the customer.
> 
> So, rather than lobbying your MP, local Council or Ward officials
> (many of whom wouldn't know an OS if it bit them on the nose), maybe
> the people to speak to are the SI's or Outsourced Service Delivery
> managers? Or, better yet, the Non-Elected-Official who liaises between
> the council and the SI? They will "own the relationship", and will be
> in more of a position to suggest that "perhaps next time round you
> could put together a cost model for rolling out a Gnome/Unity/KDE
> desktop, as well as pricing for Windows, just to see what the
> cost/value differences are?" Which, incidentally, might be able to be
> FOI'd - just saying...
> 
> Bear in mind that the focus at the moment is to move more services to
> "The Cloud", whether that be something like Google (unlikely),
> Rackspace (hmmm, slightly more possible), EC2 (in some cases), or an
> SI's own "Local Cloud" (such as the one I'm working on at the moment),
> and most of the integration to that will be using Citrix, not a web
> browser, you might find it pretty hard to convince people.
> 
> I'm not saying the situation is untenable, but just that maybe people
> are focusing on the wrong areas, and not looking into how these things
> get going.
> --
> Jon "The Nice Guy" Spriggs
> 
> 
> On 22 August 2013 15:39, Paul Sutton <zleap at zleap.net> wrote:
> > On 31/07/13 20:42, Pete wrote:
> >> I guess most if not everyone out there know that Governments use
> >> Windows XP (Uk Gov't) and that it costs quite a huge amount to pay in
> >> bulk licenses, including local councils. Does anyone know how much
> >> these bulk licenses cost and how many the UK Gov't have?
> >>
> >> Well, onto the main reason I am posting - I have sent an email to my
> >> local MP to look into using a Linux based OS instead of Windows as
> >> they wont need to pay for licenses which will presumably save hundreds
> >> of thousands.
> >>
> >> Why not send an email to your local MP or the MP that deals with the
> >> IT or whoever it is that does.
> >>
> >> What's your thoughts on this?
> >
> > More to the point ask what the plan is once XP reaches end of life,  in
> > 2014 and suggest alternatives,  but people are going to need training,
> > support in its use,  etc,  who can provide that, who can provide tech
> > support, etc,   how much are canonicals packages on support.  etc
> >
> > on this basis  any pointers to people who can perhaps support local
> > government in this may be helpful,
> >
> > Paul
> >
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> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
> 
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