[ubuntu-uk] Unity launcher ....

alan c aeclist at candt.waitrose.com
Sun Mar 25 09:18:57 UTC 2012


On 23/03/12 22:11, scoundrel50a wrote:
> On 23/03/2012 22:04, Alan Pope wrote:
> On 23/03/12 21:45, Daniel Case wrote:
>>>> On 23 March 2012 21:21, Neil Greenwood
>>>> <neil.greenwood.lug at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>> They spent lots of money testing different behaviours
>>>> In my opinion, this is where the problem lies. The main people
>>>> Linux attracts, no matter which way you look at it, are hackers (in
>>>> the general sense).
> That's exactly the problem we're trying to solve. Not asking the
> target audience, but only asking hackers would be arrogant and
> foolhardy. That's why we don't do that. We do listen to feedback, more
> than you'd imagine, and decisions taken about design (for example) are
> directly affected by user feedback. That doesn't happen for every
> minute decision, but it happens.
> 
> We're also making it easier to buy computers with Ubuntu pre-installed
> by talking to hardware vendors, to get it shipped from the factory.
> It's hard work and takes a long time to do but we're getting there.
> 
>>>> Which brings me back to my first point, who's going to advocate
>>>> Ubuntu if it annoys the hacker and makes life more difficult?
>>>>
> Those of us who do like it, do use it and believe it is the right path
> for Ubuntu to take. If you don't then you have a number of options:-
> 
> * Install a different desktop environment on your Ubuntu system
> * Join the discussion on the various Ubuntu development lists to
> articulate how we're doing things wrong
> * Test and file bugs when things don't work correctly
> * Provide patches or programs to help Ubuntu&  Unity to appeal
> 
> Personally I am in this for the long haul. Each 6 monthly release is
> fantastic, but I'm thinking years away from now, and I'm happy to
> persevere through the rough times because I think the long term goal
> is worth it.
> 
> Frankly if people who are "inside" our community, "hackers" as you
> call them aren't willing to get stuck in then Linux Mint, Debian,
> Fedora and hundreds of other distros are ->  that way. Enjoy!
> 
> Cheers,
>>
> oooh and who took your dummy away.......that was my reaction when I read 
> that.......but the thing is, you work for Canonical, so your going to 
> say that, whatever happens........what is frustrating is people on here 
> are giving an opinion and its being thrown aside is if it doesnt matter 
> because you have all this research into what people like, but people are 
> here telling you different, that has been going on since 11.04 people 
> have said they dont like it......and its not getting better its getting 
> worse.....

I think that is an unfair response. Alan has personally given me
unbelievable support over many years  for my activities as a volunteer
advocate of FLOSS and Ubuntu.
What he says is sensible and quite proper, and I am delighted that he
has the courage to post on this group.
-- 
alan cocks



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