[ubuntu-uk] ubuntu in india

paul sutton zleap at zleap.net
Fri Jun 22 09:58:29 UTC 2012


On 22/06/12 10:47, richard wrote:
> On 22/06/12 10:08, paul sutton wrote:
>> On 22/06/12 08:09, Chris Fox wrote:
>>> On 22/06/12 07:38, richard wrote:
>>>> On 21/06/12 17:47, john wrote:
>>>>> Thought that this may be interesting :
>>>>>
>>>>> ww.h-online.com/open/news/item/Dell-to-bring-Ubuntu-laptops-to-850-retail-stores-in-India-1620657.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>> so why not sell them here too ?
>>>>
>>>  From what I recall, they did for a while and it was a monumental
>>> failure. Perhaps it was before its time, perhaps Dell didn't do a good
>>> enough job of marketing it, but either way I think they did it for a
>>> while and then binned the idea.
>>>
>>> Personally I'd like to see someone try it again. The big stumbling
>>> block, I think, isn't telling Joe Public that Ubuntu is better than
>>> Windows: They can figure that out for themselves, and if they can't
>>> then
>>> maybe for them Ubuntu /isn't/ better.
>>>
>>> What Dell, or PC World, or whoever tries this at a national level needs
>>> to educate your average home user about is that Ubuntu is different,
>>> and
>>> isn't compatible with Windows, and why. I vaguely recall stories from
>>> the last time someone tried selling pre-loaded Linux laptops to Joe
>>> Public that a number of users were returning them as "faulty" because
>>> their Windows software didn't work.
>>>
>>> Good luck to the chap who posted to this list a few days ago trying to
>>> do the same thing - I hope it's a big success.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>>
>> I think given when I ask people what Operating system they use they say
>> Windows and some struggle to then tell me what version of windows they
>> are running,  this is going to be a real struggle.
>>
>> I think the Raspberry Pi may perhaps suffer the same fate,  illiterate
>> adults will struggle with them while children and computer literate
>> adults will probably understand what is going on and thrive to a point,
>> then be frustrated at the illiteracy of adults who are then unable to
>> help them progress further and what is worse they won't admit they are
>> clueless on the topic.
>>
>> It won't fail per-se just highlight how bad things have got with regard
>> to peoples technical literacy.
>>
>> Going back on topic the biggest fail was putting linpus on netbooks,  a
>> lot of Linux users hated it, and it really gave a bad impression as to
>> what Linux is.  As for the impression given to non linux users it was
>> probably enough to really put people off.
>>
>> For this to work you NEED local support and this is hard to get,
>> people support windows and know windows and can fix most issues,
>> fixing issues with ubuntu does require the same level of knowledge which
>> for the avg user is lacking,
>>
>> Paul
>>
> I would be happy if they sold them on line with a warning that you
> would get no software support. But last time i asked one of the
> salespeople that pop up when you visit their site  I was told "we
> don't do that", only a few weeks ago.
>
I guess people EXPECT support,  and if you offer something with no
support people won't bother, or ask why.

If i manage to get in to a school as a Teaching assistant I feel i can
make a difference and the fact I know Linux, The rasp PI uses Linux and
the curriculum is changing to cover computer programming I really hope
that will be my foot in the door.  As I have both technical knowledge
and I am good with children which is actually kind of rare or seems to
be,  I just lack the ability to sell my self in an effective way.

Paul


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