[ubuntu-uk] non ubuntu related question! Buying a second hand phone, how can i avoid being scammed?

[Stuart Ward]

If you can prove that you purchased it in good faith, then they will
have to unblock it. If you bought it off a mate for cash, you don't
have any receipt, or evidence that you checked that it was not
reported stolen at the time of the sale, then a subsequent reporting
of it as stolen will be difficult to refute that you didn't receive
stolen goods.

I have dealt with a few instances like this and provided the new owner
can show a receipt for purchase, then the bar is lifted.

Same rules apply when buying a second hand car.


-- Stuart Ward M +44 7782325143



On 9 February 2012 15:47, javadayaz <javadayaz at gmail.com> wrote:
> again, isnt it easy enough for the seller to have it blocked at a later
> stage..even if they provide me with a clean checkmend report?
>
> Also the network could easily enough just say that im using a stolen
> phone!!!?
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Stuart Ward <stuart.ward at bcs.org> wrote:
>>
>> Javad
>>
>> The seller should provide you with a report from checkmend
>> www.checkmend.com to show that the phone is not currently listed
>> anywhere. Don't accept a phone that has anything other than all green
>> indicators.
>>
>> Once you have the phone, put a SIM in it an make some calls, so that
>> your operator has a record of the phone being used on your account. If
>> the phone is subsequently blocked that contact your operator, they
>> will be able to see which network blocked it and get them to list the
>> block. If they have records of the phone being used on a legitimate
>> account (Your SIM) then they can get the other operator to lift the
>> block.
>>
>> Only operators have access to the blacklisting process, once an
>> operator blacklists a IMEI on their network they then post this number
>> to a central database and all other operators pick this up for
>> blacklisting. So if your phone is stolen and you report it to your
>> operator, you can be assured that it is listed at least with all UK
>> operators. Only the operator that listed a IMEI is capable of lifting
>> the listing. If your IMEI has been listed by another operator (yes
>> mistakes happen) then the listing indicates the operator that listed
>> it so your operator can get the problem resolved. Provided they can
>> show usage on their network with a valid account this should not be a
>> problem.
>>
>> Lastly it is worth listing your IMEI number on IMMOBILISE
>> www.imobilise.com, This one of the places that the police will check
>> if they recover a phone, to see if it has been stolen.
>>
>> The blacklisting processes are managed between the operators in a
>> forum known as MICAF www.micaf.co.uk There are some useful tips and
>> contacts on their site. You cant contact micaf directly, you need to
>> go through your operator.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>> -- Stuart Ward M +44 7782325143
>>
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> Regards
>
> Javad
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