[ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 12.04

[Phill Whiteside]

I think you under-estimate those who have been using *buntu for a while.
They're more canny than a lot give credit to. For example we have a fairly
n00b who just came onto IRC questioning why the upgrade wanted to install
2-zillion packages.... Good old
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure-1.Upgrades
I wonder how many bork'ed installs are due to this?

Regards,

Phill.

On 30 April 2012 18:49, Colin Law <clanlaw at googlemail.com> wrote:

> On 30 April 2012 14:04, Phill Whiteside <PhillW at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > I'd love to see how you re-install without touching /home if it is NOT a
> > seperate partition which is the whole point of that link?
>
> The link is out of date.  Since a couple of releases ago if you select
> the Something Else option at the start of the install and then select
> to install to the same partition as an existing Ubuntu but do /not/
> specify that the partition should be formatted then it will replace
> all the system files but leave /home as it is.  Effectively the same
> as if /home were on a separate partition.
>
> > Secondly, taking a
> > backup oh your /home partition once you have it is 'walk in the park'.
>
> That link does not even address that issue.
>
> > Thirdly, it is at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntuWhich
> > states a couple of times about backing up. "If you do not back up your
> > important data, your data is not important to you". A a noob back in
> 9.04, I
> > followed it with no problems - I just followed the instrcutions carefully
> > (it was hosted on Psychocats back then).
>
> The link says that setting up the partition in the first place is
> "beyond the scope of this page" and links to a set of pages that the
> vast majority of non-geek users would be completely baffled by.  Most
> of them probably don't even know what a partition is.
>
> Colin
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Phill.
> >
> > On 30 April 2012 18:17, Colin Law <clanlaw at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 30 April 2012 13:32, Phill Whiteside <PhillW at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> >> > I think that the passage
> >> >
> >> >> When upgrading from a previous release, it is always a good idea to
> >> >> [[https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving | move
> >> >> /home]],
> >> >> it gives additional safe guards for your own data. In any case,
> taking
> >> >> a
> >> >> backup is recommended.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Should be, placed everywhere that a user can upgrade from.
> >>
> >> Why does that give additional safeguards for the data?  If a failed
> >> upgrade corrupts the home directory then it will do so whether it is
> >> on a separate partition or not.  Also if an upgrade fails then a
> >> re-install can be performed keeping existing /home even if it is not
> >> in a separate partition (by telling the installer not to format the
> >> partition).
> >>
> >> Finally no inexperienced user is going to be able to follow those
> >> instructions.  He is more likely to lose his data trying to move it to
> >> separate partition than he is doing an upgrade.
> >>
> >> Where does that passage come from?
> >>
> >> Colin
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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