[ubuntu-uk] On giving people Ubuntu to try.

Dave Hanson dave at hansonforensics.co.uk
Mon Jun 13 21:26:16 UTC 2011

Martin, I like you enthusiasm.

I am planning to distribute a usb based Ubuntu distro to Leeds Met
University with an Oracle XE installation on as the admin there don't trust
the students to have full admin rights themselves.

I shall mention your speed thoughts and report back, it is obviously not as
cost effective as a standard usb  though I'm sure you'll agree?

Perhaps one for the future on mass scale. Live cd's still rule the waves I'm

On Jun 13, 2011 9:50 PM, "Martin Houston" <mhouston at deluxe-tech.co.uk>
> I have a couple of old Thinkpad T43s that a friend gave to me thinking
> that he had killed them with a faulty USB device.
> A bit of googling and a 'deep reset' restored them both to life much to
> my friends consternation.
> I offered them him back but was given permission to keep them :)
> Neither laptop had an internal hard disk so they were ideal
> experimenting grounds for working with various USB and net booting
> Something I found that works really well is a 2.5" (i.e. bus powered)
> USB hard disk.
> Linux installed onto a 250MB one of these is really quite usable, much
> more so than a USB memory stick.
> This is a route that you can use to get your friends to try out Linux
> you lend to them, without having to go axeing that internal hard disk
> incumbent just yet.
> Things will get even more interesting when USB3 ports become common,
> especially once motherboards can boot from them! USB3 connected hard
> disks are faster even than eSATA and even cheap USB3 memory keys have
> performance on the par with old PATA hard disks (but the small extra
> advantage of zero seek time!).
> Bootable CDs & DVDs only go so far. Telling newbies that they need to be
> patient because of the very slow seek times is not easy. It does not
> create a very good impression.
> Peoples first impressions of Windows are not of having to install it
> from the media, so why should Linux have that disadvantage of first
> impression?
> One of the things we should be doing for others is 'Linux propagation' -
> if you have a friend who wants to try Linux ask if they have a spare USB
> hard disk (a smallish one would do!) or can risk the less than 50 quid
> it costs to buy one.
> We need to build some logical volume manager based system replication
> procedures. That 250MB hard disk Linux started life on a memory stick
> and using just lvm volume replication and expansion moved onto the USB
> disk and then onto the internal hard disk of another laptop.
> Having that complete bootable, golden copy of the OS is good insurance
> even if you do move to the convenience and speed of internal disk in the
> end.
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