[ubuntu-uk] hard disk problem ?

ajp at princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk ajp at princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk
Thu Jul 7 17:14:09 UTC 2011




> Message Received: Jul 07 2011, 02:15 PM
> From: "alan c" 
> To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> Cc: 
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] hard disk problem ?
> 
> 
> On 07/07/11 08:11, john beddard wrote:
> > 
> > Its come to the situation now that whenever we go to local business 
> > meetings. It is possible to identify the Windows 'wolf-pack' hovering in 
> > the back-ground, ready to get their teeth into us. LOL! I love these 
> > situations because I can see the potential for skilfully engaging with 
> > people.
> > 
> > However last night, after easily engaging in the usual 'Diss List' of 
> > Ubuntu inadequacy. We got given one 'Diss' that made me think. Baring in 
> > mind that this is useful for us also. It was this :
> > 
> > "Linux doesn't seem to give a warning message when the hard-disk is
> > full, instead the system seem to die and shut down."
> 
> 'Linux' might not have, but Ubuntu does. And what is more, although
> the User account is usually then stuffed, it is pretty easy to get to
> admin privileges to use the - then still available - space allocated
> for this sort of function..... to manage the user account mess.
> IIRC th euser message even offers to move to a function to take
> action (view disc usage), although I would tend to get up to admin and
> start sweeping.
> 
> Notable epic fail of mine was to arrange on a friends computer a daily
> backup (sbackup) and neglect to set the delete after 'x' days
> properly. So after 6 months I got a phone call. I will leave it as an
> exercise for the reader to guess the rest.
> :-(
> -- 
> alan cocks
> Ubuntu user
> 
> -- In which case 
> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
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> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
> 
> 

I know that Ubuntu does have a warning message when disk space is low (from my eeepc with only a 4GB SSD!), but do I understand that there is also a 'userspace' limit of, say, 90% of the disk, in which case, does the warning apply to the whole disk, or just the userspace? And also, which limit would apply if the user assumes Admin rights such as with Update Mananger? I think we need to have the rules spelt out to fully satisfy the detractors (possibly in an article somewhere, like in Linux Journal).

There are also question about what to do when the userspace limit is reached. In my old Unix days, it was easy to call up a new terminal and log in as root. It was easy to even get the user to do that. I assume in Ubuntu one would have to reboot into Recovery mode. Can the user easily reboot when the disk is full? Would an admin want to tell the user how to go into Recovery mode? 

These are just some thoughts about what is needed for Ubuntu to become the sort of system that admins would accept in the work place.

Tony





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